For Sale FS 1950 FT. of ISO 1 35mm film, sort of WHAT?

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1950 FT. of ISO 1 35mm film, sort of WHAT?
What is this guy taking about, Let me explain. I've been thinking about trying some of the Kodak 5222 movie film or the ORWO to see if I'd like it so in my search on the auction site I came across a listing for this "Eastman Fine Grain Duplicating Panchromatic Negative Film SO-239" 2000ft. On a whim I entered a bid and I won. 10 days later the big box arrives and I go to the darkroom to peel off a few feet to test and find out if this will even work for general photography. My first hint of trouble came when I felt the film in the total darkness, it was a little thicker and a lot stiffer than the Ilford that I use. I cut off about 4 feet and loaded it in a cassette, reseal the roll in the bag and can and turn on the light. "HOLY CRAP what is this?" I say to my self when I actually see the film, the sprocket holes they are tiny and spaced far apart, not any thing like regular 35mm. But I proceed with my efforts to see if it will work some how.
Info on this film was very hard to find, the internet did not show this exact product. I did find it listed in my 1977 volume of the Photo Lab Index but no listing of ISO or developing times. It appears that this film was made for only 1 purpose, to be used in a special duping machine and specially processed by a movie film developing machine.
I finally found a camera that I could get it to work in, my Nikon FE-2 but the frame spacing is very wide, like 8mm between frames. My first few developing test were complete failures, way overdeveloped and extreme base fog. My last test was somewhat useable but still quite high base fog. I used 1 oz. HC-110 stock to make 16 oz. working dev. 20min at 70F, 5 inversions per min. I'm guessing the film is at least 10 years out of date. I'm just guessing at the ISO, but 5 stops overexposed from ISO 12 on the camera's meter setting got a sorta usuable neg. I will test a few more times this week. The outside shot was made on a very overcast cold winter day and the inside one is about a stop underexposed.
Even though this film will not work for me, some of you might have a need for it so I'm offering it for sale. $40.00 plus $20.00 postage(it's heavy,that's what the actual postage cost was from the seller) for a total of $60.00. Paypal is ok, so is a USPS money order. Email with questions. Thanks, RandyB
 

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That's perfed to be cut down the middle into 2 single-perf 16mm films when processed. (I passed up on that ebay auction because of that!)

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By the way, this is almost certainly the same stuff:

http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/US_plugins_acrobat_en_motion_products_lab_h15234.pdf

2234 in the case of what you've got (35mm width, Estar base). I'm guessing the SO-239 number has to do with the perforations. The 35/32 SP694 perf spec is a standard Kodak thing, but I can't find any old catalogs with 2234 listed as being for sale in that configuration. So somebody must have special ordered it from Kodak that way.

If you like what this film offers but don't like the way it's perfed, you can still buy 2234 with standard 35mm perfs brand new from Kodak. $682 for a 2000-ft roll. If you go with the acetate based 5234 it's the same price, but it's additionally available in a 1000-ft roll for $341. All of those with a minimum order quantity of 1 roll.

http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/QA_MotionPictureCatalog_November15_2011.pdf

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SO refers to "special order" - they did not make a huge amount or it wasn't part of their general every day production.

i used to use SO-132, also a single step film used to create negative to negative
duplicates ... ( no internegative ). like your SO 239, it was very slow
it could be processed under a safelight in print developer. photowarehouse used to sell something similar to it
( maybe they still do ? ) called professional duplicating film upto 8x10" in size.
i still have some 4x5, both the kodak-stuff, as well as the PW stuff ...
from what i can remember, the only downside to the film was that it has a blueish cast to the base

looks like it is almost the same stuff that you have ( but 3/4 - 1stop slower )
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f11/f11.pdf

the tech pub also gives developer and times ...


have fun!

john
 
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