"Frozen Film" Shoot Hocking Hills Park, Feb 2011

[htimsdj]

Lee -

Your photos show that you went to many of the same places I did.


Jeff -

There is quite a bit to do in the area - we actually have a number of photographs taken in the area that were made by a local photographer. I think there are opportunities to photograph during all times of the year.

Jeff

 

[daleeman]

Jeff,
I'd love to see more of your images of H.H..

Your right there are a hand full of spectacular sights there. This was my first time at Natural Bridge, funny I've been going there since the pony tail reached the middle of my back in the 70s, but I think I forgot that....
So I think it was my first time at the bridge.

There had been no rain in about 2 weeks there, so there was no water falls at Natural Bridge or the Lower Falls or even flowing under Old Man's Cave. Was the water running when you were there?

Lee

Lee -

Your photos show that you went to many of the same places I did.


Jeff -

There is quite a bit to do in the area - we actually have a number of photographs taken in the area that were made by a local photographer. I think there are opportunities to photograph during all times of the year.

Jeff

 

[htimsdj]

Lee - It was quite dry when we were there. A park ranger took us on a hike of Cedar Falls, and he referred to it as Cedar Trickle. Ash Cave had no water coming over the lip; Old Man's Cave had water flowing below, but not much.

Here is one photograph from our trip, on Kodachrome: http://flic.kr/p/8PeTjb

I'll scan more and post them later.

Looking forward to the February trip - it should be a good time for black and white photography.

Jeff

 

[jpreston]

Hello! New to Apug, but would be interested in the Hocking trip. Once all of the details are finalized I'll check my work schedule. I've been there a couple of times, but never with film. Hoping to have an RB or RZ 67 by then!!!

Jeff from Marysville

 

[daleeman]

Hello! New to Apug, but would be interested in the Hocking trip. Once all of the details are finalized I'll check my work schedule. I've been there a couple of times, but never with film. Hoping to have an RB or RZ 67 by then!!!

Jeff from Marysville

Jeff,
Glad to have you come. Its good to have some people with us who have been there as well. Good luck on obtaining the RB or RZ67. Stay in touch

Lee

 

[daleeman]

Staying warm while out shooting

Happy New Year !
2011 is almost here and it is time to start shooting out in the cold weather. My hats off to the folks in the east coast right now who have in some places up to three feet of snow. My thought and prayers are with them that they stay safe and warm.

In preparation for the Frozen Film Shoot I look for and find some real gems about cold weather hiking, staying warm and safe. Some very important advice was found at the Trails.com web site. They speak about layering cloths to keep warm and staying away from cotton clothing. Hard to keep me out of my jeans but safety in the cold is paramount. Here is what they published on layering clothing.

“Hiking is an enjoyable activity in any weather. By following a few, simple winter hiking tips, you are in for a treat! These tips are designed to keep you safe, comfortable and going strong in a weather that scares off a lot of fellow outdoor enthusiasts. Since winter hiking has its very own set of rules and associated needs, it is a good idea to fully familiarize yourself with the suggested items you need. Make certain that they are serviceable and pack the night before the hike


Step 1
Dress in layers. Choose a number of clothing articles you can take off and put back on independently. Wear a pair of long johns made from polypropylene over which you wear a pair of pants made of a lightweight, water proof and breathable material. A good choice is the Schoeller Dryskin fabric that is offered on the Trails website (a link is listed with the resources). On top, start out with a short sleeved t-shirt---also made of polypropylene--top it with long sleeved thin fleece shirt, add a turtleneck sweater and finish up with a jacket made from Schoeller Dryskin material.
Step 2
Remember to dress the head. Pick out a balaclava since it is perfect for keeping nose and ears protected from wind, snow and rain. It also prevents the heat loss from the head, which is a danger during longer winter hikes. Add sun goggles to protect your eyes from sunlight as well as wind.
Step 3
Choose a backpack made of breathable material. Avoid the sweaty back and the sore shoulders by investing in an all weather backpack made of breathable material. A good example is the Deuter Futura 28 Daypack that is large enough to carry a thermos, canteen, excess clothing as you shed it along the winter hike, food, extra vapor barrier socks, extra gloves, and assorted odds and ends.
Step 4
Wear cold weather hiking boots and vapor barrier socks. Choose an insulated, water proof boot that is not made from leather but is instead made of a plastic and rubber combination. Leather freezes in winter weather, while plastic and rubber will not. You can make your already broken in leather boots work by waterproofing them with spray-on chemicals, but you might want to add plastic gaiters to add moisture resistance to your footwear. Dress your foot in vapor barrier socks to prevent excessive sweating that makes the inside of your boot slippery and uncomfortable.
Step 5
Bring food and water. Remember that during a winter hike your body burns more calories and requires more nourishment and water than it might during a summer hike. Bring plenty of food and plan on stopping frequently and replenishing your energy by eating moderately sized snacks. Plan on bringing along a gallon of drinking water; depending on the length of your hike, you might even drink more than that. If you keep a canteen in addition to the water supply in your backpack, carry the canteen upside down. “


Tips & Warnings

Carry your canteen upside down on winter hikes. Water freezes in a bottle from the top down, and if you carry the canteen upside down, it is actually the bottom where the water freezes, not the mouth of the canteen.

Avoid cotton when choosing your clothes. When cotton gets wet, it takes a long time to dry. Wet cotton also freezes quickly and--whether it is sweat or simply moisture from snow or rain---becomes useless almost immediately for the hike.


Read more at Trails.com: Winter Hiking Tips | Trails.com Dead Link Removed

Other Tips
Tips & Warnings

Taylor cautions against overdressing, as it could cause overheating. "If you're comfortable at the trail head, you're going to end up sweating as you travel, and being wet will lower your core temperature. A little sweat is okay, but once you're wet, you're in trouble," he says.

Its a rule of thumb not to use cotton when layering-"No cotton!" Taylor emphasized, adding that "cotton retains moisture, drying slowly rather than allowing it to evaporate."


Read more at Trails.com: How to Layer Clothes for Winter Hikes | Trails.com Dead Link Removed

 

[jpreston]

My RB Pro S kit with 90mm & 180mm lenses is on it's way ! Any dates being kicked around for the shoot?

 

[daleeman]

My RB Pro S kit with 90mm & 180mm lenses is on it's way ! Any dates being kicked around for the shoot?

We would love to have you. Dates are Feb 11, 12 & 13. Lots of details in the threads. We should have a full schedule ready in a week.

We were just there yesterday to check out one more location to go and a place to warm up and eat lunch on Saturday our longest day out in the elements.

More in the next post.

Lee

 

[daleeman]

Frozen Film Update

Yesterday Sue and I made a pilgrimage to Hocking Hills area to do some exploring. It was about 12 degrees F and winds there were gusting up to 15 mph on occasion. Our journey was to check out a “Permit Access Only” location called Saltpetre Cave Nature Preserve. We contacted the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and obtained permits to hike and photograph in this area as well as a parking permit to park in the very limited pull over spot. We found great caves; water falls frozen in time and no tourists. Images soon!

Saturday’s Lunch will be at the Grouse Nest Restaurant at the Hocking Hills Resort. This is a great small company offering a yearlong restaurant, cabins, wedding chapel and reception hall. We had a great lunch there Saturday and we hope you all will join us there to warm up, have a beer or coke and a hearty lunch. More information at: http://www.ashcave.com/index.htm

We would like everyone going to follow this link and download the PDF request for access form, fill it in and mail it or fax to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources. You must do this more than 14 days before our journey. Please place both Saltpetre Caves and Sheick Hallow in your request for access. Dead Link Removed The Caves will be on out primary places to visit. You will need to have your permit.

Sue and I were covered head to tow with the warmest things we owned. Polar Tech base layers, face masks and multiple layers; we were warm. We also hiked with our trekking poles for balance while moving along the trails. A base layer of ice with up to 3 inches of show on top made the trails challenging but beautiful. Roads were passable although I almost carved off the right side of my car as we slid down a huge hill, so caution while driving and hiking is very paramount.

We will form up the hiking schedule very soon for the Frozen film Shoot. Those who commit to go and PM me will get the completed schedule.

PLEASE PM ME IF YOU ARE JOINING US. Just in case we need to help in some way please provide your names, addresses and phone (cell) numbers. * cell phone coverage there is very spotty at best but it helps to keep connected.

Also, we do this because we love the area, we are not professional tour guides and can only share some of the beauty we have found there, so be safe, stay on the trails and know we cannot and do not accept liability for your safety. Just be safe we will all have a COOL TIME.

Lee

 

[daleeman]

Did I forget to say turkeys

Sue and I saw 12 turkeys yesterday and red tail hawks too.

 

[jpreston]

Dang, I have to work on the 12th. I might be able to just drive down for the 13th, though. Will I still need the permits for Saltpetre Caves and Sheick Hallow?

Jeff

 

[daleeman]

Dang, I have to work on the 12th. I might be able to just drive down for the 13th, though. Will I still need the permits for Saltpetre Caves and Sheick Hallow?

Jeff

Jeff,
There are so many places to photograph there you will have plenty of places to shoot. Sue and I will be going into the preserves area and for those yes you need to file a permit. (They are worth it and free)
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We are faxing our permits in today to Ms. Judyi Love at DNR Ohio. Normally USPS is fine.

Today and tomorrow, we finish the trecking plans and post here. We plan to PM a lot of folks on APUG to do a personal invite as well. Keep you on the list.

Dayton Ohio to Cincinnati will get up to 5" of snow today, I will be watching how SE Ohio weather goes to see how it will add to its snow base.

Lee

 

[daleeman]

One of the Saltpetre Caves

A neg scan from 645 neg on a HP G4050 is hardly a good representation of the real silent beauty of such a secluded place. Thought you all might like to see this shot of the permit controlled area of Hocking Hills.
Lee

 

[jpreston]

Sounds good Lee. I'm about 90 minutes Northeast of you in Marysville. Looks like we're in for the snow as well. I'll send in the permit request so I'll have it just in case.

Thanks,

Jeff

 

[daleeman]

Sounds good Lee. I'm about 90 minutes Northeast of you in Marysville. Looks like we're in for the snow as well. I'll send in the permit request so I'll have it just in case.

Thanks,

Jeff

Great. I made my request for Friday through Sunday, daylight hours, sent it in by fax to 614-265-7202.

Snowing good here in Dayton right now. I'll take a look and see if any is building up in the South East Ohio. We have a couple of weeks yet but the more the better.

Lee

 

[jpreston]

Hope I can make it down at least on Sunday. The 65mm I ordered a few days ago from KEH should be here on Tuesday. Would love to give it a workout in the hills.

 

[daleeman]

Schedule

Frozen Film Shoot 2/11-13/2011 Hocking Hills Ohio


Welcome,

You are invited to be part of the First Annual Frozen Film Shoot in Hocking Hills Park and surrounding areas. Shooting in the cold dead of winter can be extremely rewarding and challenging at the same time.

(First off - Please file for an access permit from Ohio DNR for Saltpetre Caves, Scheick Hollow and Little Hollow state preserves for “daylight hours” “hiking and photography” for the dates from “2/11-13/2011” if you are thinking of going but not even certain. Form is linked off this page. Dead Link Removed
Send to Judi Love, Fax # 614-265-7202, or email scanned form to judi.love@dnr.state.oh.us You can tell her you are with me for the photo trip.)

So here are the 5 Ws

Who: APUG members and friends

What: Frozen Film Shoot

When: 2/11-13/2011

Where: Hocking Hills Park, Ohio and surrounding area

Why: Same reason mountain climbers climb mountains, because it is there. Even better yet a chance to get out and gather with old and new friends, groove on nature and enjoy and learn from others skills and abilities.

Base Camp for the trip is the Holiday Inn. Free breakfast for guests and if you have to cancel you can do so up to 6pm your first night stay.
Holiday Inn.
Hocking Hills-logan
12916 Grey St,
Logan, OHIO 43138
Hotel Front Desk : 740-385-7700


Schedule:

Friday 2/11/2011:
Gather at the Visitor Center at 12 Noon, on Rt 644 by Old Man’s Cave. They have maps, snacks “Indoor Plumbing” (Big Plus+++)
From there we will head out for the careful and slow walk down to Old Man’s Cave and then down stream to the lower falls.
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(Ice and snow will make things beautiful and slick. Consider crampons for your boots and be aware of frostbite issues, post 21 in this thread)

From Old Man’s Cave we will go to Cantwell Cliffs. Cantwell Cliffs is on Rt 374.
http://www.hockinghills.com/parks/p_cantw.htm
and http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&...snum=5&sqi=2&ved=0CEwQsAQwBA&biw=1147&bih=765

After Cantwell Cliffs we head back to Logan. Check in your hotel a and meet us for dinner.

Dinner Friday Evening will be at Jack’s Steak House.
35770 Hocking Drive Logan, Ohio 43138
740-385-9909 This is on the east of Logan.
http://jacks-steakhouse.com/Default.asp
We will be putting in reservations so we need an accurate count 2 days earlier , they can be very busy


Saturday 2/12/2011:
Saturday morning breakfast for Holiday Inn guests at the hotel or if we have several people staying all over the place (Cabins, Holiday Inn, The Baymont, Inn Tower Motel and such) then we will all meet at Bush's Restaurant 428 East Front Street in Logan. 740-385-7639 They open at 6 AM on Saturday. We could meet then or at 7 AM. (another reason for confirming who and how many are going)
http://bushsrestaurant.com/bushs/index.htm

First outing is to the Rock House. It is located on SR 374. Rock house has a lot of history and is just incredible. Trails should be passable to it with great caution due to ice and snow. Some history is here: http://www.wyrickshillsidelodge.com/hocking-hills-state-park/rock-house.htm

I have some photos of Rock House and other places in Hocking areas in an online gallery:
http://leegephart.smugmug.com/Art/Hocking-Hills-Ohio-1112-132010/14687463_NhBYM#1093681650_hEoTL

Those who filed for a State of Ohio Department of Natural Resources permit to enter Saltpetre Caves will join us from Rock House to a very private and rarely traveled trip to the caves located on Big Pine Road at the green post across from the cement bridge. You must have a permit to enter this controlled area. Woe to you if a state ranger catches you without a permit. You will find a permit application here:
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Those without permits can go to Conkle’s Hollow while those with permits will be at the caves. Conkle’s Hollow is at the intersection of RT 374 and Big Pine Road.

From there we will go inside and warm up for lunch just past Ash Cave at the Grouse Nest restaurant located at the Hocking Hills Resort. 25780 Liberty Hill Road. 740-332-4501. http://www.grousenest.com/
Make no mistake when they say Liberty Hill Road… It’s a real hill for your car to climb.

After a chance to warm up, eat lunch at the grouse nest and enjoy your favorite beverage by the fireplace we will go into Ash Cave for more spectacular photography. Ash cave is on SR 56 just next to where we eat lunch.

From Ash cave we will go to Cedar Falls for our last expedition of Saturday. Cedar Falls is on SR 374.

Dinner will be at the Millstone BBQ 12790 Grey St. Logan. 740-385-5341 http://www.millstonebbq.com/ Best BBQ and beverages in the area. This is right next to the Holiday Inn Hotel.


Sunday 2/13/2011:
Same criteria for breakfast as Saturday, Morning after breakfast for Holiday Inn guests at the hotel or if we have several people staying all over the place (Cabins, Holiday Inn, The Baymont Inn, Inn Tower Motel and such) we should all meet at Bush's Restaurant 428 East Front Street in Logan. 740-385-7639 We could meet at 7 AM.
http://bushsrestaurant.com/bushs/index.htm

We will head out after breakfast to Rock Bridge preserve. This is off RT 33 just west of Logan. There is a small sign along State Route 33 heading west that informs you where to turn to get to the preserve. Just as most all locations this is a fairly strenuous hike. There are no restroom facilities there, just a parking area at the trailhead.
http://www.hockinghills.com/parks/p_rbridge.htm
and http://www.hockinghills.com/rock_bridge.html

From there we could meet for lunch, second breakfast or coffee at the Silver Diner of Hocking Hills just west of Rock Bridge on Rt 33. The diner is at 26784 Route 33. 740-385-9495

Some may choose to head home at that time or go on to Scheick Hollow and Little Hollow state preserves. Directions to follow once forwarded to me from the State of Ohio DNR. These are permit only areas. One may also return to Old Man’s Cave or any other location they wish to see or visit again

This is a totally voluntary trip, please be aware of the dangers of snow and ice covered rocky terrain and be responsible for yourself and your hiking partners. No one should be out hiking without a buddy for safety sake. We can point you to some great locations but can not nor will not take responsibility for your safety, so we need everyone to be extremely diligent and watch out of dangers.

We hope to see you at this exciting winter wonderland of great photographic locations. Please PM me with your RSVP that includes your name, address, cell number and an emergency contact person.

Look forward to hearing from you,

Lee Gephart
937-294-3117
daleeman@yahoo.com

 

[daleeman]

Hi Lee, we briefly met up at John's the time before the the last outing.

I am just east of Cincinnati. Hocking has been on my radar for quite some time but just haven't made it there yet. Trying to do a fall trip. If you end up getting something on your schedule let me know.

Cody

Cody, I tried to PM you, but look at page 5 of the posts and these schedule is there

Lee

 

[daleeman]

Our Frozen Film shoot is this weekend. Still plenty of time for those who may have other plans to still change their minds and get out and shoot some frozen waterfalls, caves, rock formations and take some great hikes. Look forward to your joining us.

Lee

 

[daleeman]

Due to limited response we are dropping Sunday off the event. We will be going down today and overnighting then out again on Saturday, returning home Saturday evening. If anyone changes their mind and decides to join us at the last minute, call my cell at 937-294-3117. I'll check it when we come up out of the caves, gorges and such and get on top of them there hills.

L

 

[jp80874]

Sorry,
Dolly and I couldn't make it.
We have alternated sick in bed since Christmas.
Please try again when it is warmer and we are back on our boots.

John Powers

 

[jpreston]

Sunday was the only day I could possibly have made it down. Maybe next year?

 

[daleeman]

It sure is beautiful down here. Looking forward to Saturday.
Lee

 

[daleeman]

Images from the Frozen film Shoot

We would like to show you what we saw down there in Hocking County.

Yes it was very cold, lots of snow and ice. We learned how to travel with trecking poles, a tripod and a camera. The trecking poles helped keep us stable on the ice and snow covered hills. You can see one in Sue's hands in one of the photos.

Outstanding frozen water falls !!! There was the biggest ice cube at Ash Cave, you can see from the photo with someone down by it, the image if Sue and I does not give it proper perspective.

Here are some neg scans from the trip.
http://leegephart.smugmug.com/Art/Frozen-Film-Shoot/15841780_9KFzh#1187899106_mGDZm

Lee

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

We would like to show you what we saw ...
Outstanding frozen water falls !!! ...

Looks great. Sorry I missed it, but I have been taking care of 'Aged Relative,' as Dickens puts it. I probably should have gotten one of those old-folks-services firms to take care of her for the weekend.

I have found these to be great for walking on snow and ice:

http://www.amazon.com/Kahtoola-MICROspikes-Traction-System-Black/dp/B002NBLAS0/