Front Rise 4x5

[Darryl Roberts]

Hi,

What camera, on the used market, has the most front rise and is equal to or less than six pounds?

I’m very aware of image circles.

Thank you

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Studio or field camera?

 

[Darryl Roberts]

Studio or field camera?

Either, preferably field.

 

[Besk]

My money is on the Toho. The Arca-Swiss may be over 6 lbs.
Also, Canham's metal field.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I have been using the 8x10 Canham Light Weight for over 20 years. I also use same camera for 4x5... It has a healthy front rise. It has a total of 155mm of front fall/rise. More than their JMC metal field camera. Sadly, the Light Weight version is discontinued, but you could probably find one used. Then there are the 4x5 Canhams. You didn't mention the format, so my comments may not be appropriate.

 

[xkaes]

Hi,

What camera, on the used market, has the most front rise and is equal to or less than six pounds?

I’m very aware of image circles.

Thank you

I don't quite get it. If you are aware of image circles, what is your concern about rise/fall?

Are you saying you have (or plan to get) a lens with a specific IC, and you want a camera with rise/fall to match it?

You don't say what format you are using, or what lens or IC. How much rise/fall do you want? That might be a better question -- and easier to determine. Someone saying "camera X works for me" is of little help in answering your "question".

 

[Darryl Roberts]

I have been using the 8x10 Canham Light Weight for over 20 years. I also use same camera for 4x5... It has a healthy front rise. It has a total of 155mm of front fall/rise. More than their JMC metal field camera. Sadly, the Light Weight version is discontinued, but you could probably find one used. Then there are the 4x5 Canhams. You didn't mention the format, so my comments may not be appropriate.

Thank you. Yes I should’ve typed 4x5

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Thank you. Yes I should’ve typed 4x5

If I were in the market for a 4x5 field camera, I'd go for the Canham DLC45 all light weight metal. It has about 9cm front rise/fall total.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

...actually I'd buy their newer version, the DLC2

 

[abruzzi]

it may be a bit above your weight requirement, but the Arca Swiss 4x5 F-Classic/F-Metric monorails have I believe a total of 10cm of vertical offest on the 141mm model. The older 171 model may have more vertical offset, but I'm not sure.

They are uncommon, but they're one of the most field-capable monorails I've used. I suspect the Sinars have more potential rise, but they're also heavier.

 

[cliveh]

Sinar

 

[abruzzi]

Sinar

I was actually thinking--buy a 8x10 F2--with the extra long rise/fall rods on the front standard, then replace the back with a 4x5 standard, and you'll probably have almost a foot of rise. Unfortunately, the Sinar F or F2 probably isn't 6lbs or less.

Did Sinar make extensions for the rise/fall rids for the Norma? It would be very easy to do.

 

[Doremus Scudder]

I can vignette just about any of my lenses with my field cameras by using effective rise in addition to actual front rise.

The technique is simple. Point the camera up and then tilt both standard back plumb and parallel to each other. Your tilt is the only limitation. That coupled with whatever front rise is already available has done the job for me for years with a 3 1/2-lb Wista. I can use all the available image circle on my Nikkor SW 90mm f/8 and my WF Ektar 135mm.

Maybe that technique will help in your situation.

Best,

Doremus

 

[Axelwik]

I can vignette just about any of my lenses with my field cameras by using effective rise in addition to actual front rise.

The technique is simple. Point the camera up and then tilt both standard back plumb and parallel to each other. Your tilt is the only limitation. That coupled with whatever front rise is already available has done the job for me for years with a 3 1/2-lb Wista. I can use all the available image circle on my Nikkor SW 90mm f/8 and my WF Ektar 135mm.

Maybe that technique will help in your situation.

Best,

Doremus

This^^ And if you want to go lightweight the Intrepid cameras are among the lightest, and a new one is less expensive than most used cameras.

 

[MarkS]

If you want extreme front rise for photographing skyscrapers (the only time I've needed that feature), a system monorail camera will serve you best. Indirect movements are a bit more complicated, though workable; the potential issue is image cutoff from the bellows getting in the way.