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That is strange, because it is said to work directly with one macro lens with a 52mm filter thread, and to require the included 62mm adapter to work with two macro lenses with 62mm filter threads.
That is strange, because it is said to work directly with one macro lens with a 52mm filter thread, and to require the included 62mm adapter to work with two macro lenses with 62mm filter threads.It's 62 mm. So I have a 46 - 62 mm step-up ring.
I just checked again.That is strange, because it is said to work directly with one macro lens with a 52mm filter thread, and to require the included 62mm adapter to work with two macro lenses with 62mm filter threads.
Basically your standard pseudo stealthy “humble” YouTube blowhard, à la Matt Day or Negative Feedback.
He’s an untalented idiot, with no real grasp of what he’s doing.
He knows how to spend money and make his process and life in general look casually smooth in videos, but while he is using an enormous amount of resources and thought on that, his actual output and technique is just aping, or a simulacrum of something he’s seen.
As pointed out by others here, there are too many problems with his DSLR method to even start a meaningful critique.
The real problem is that his video might induce FUD in his followers, who might just end up in paralysis.
It's disappointing, how rude people can become when they're behind the veil of the internet. It shows a person's true character.Photrio just as toxic as always then
+1 and another +1It's disappointing, how rude people can become when they're behind the veil of the internet. It shows a person's true character.
We have this old saying: "You can judge the quality of a person by the way he treats those who can do nothing for him." It holds true here. The trick is that we decent people have to continually shrug it off and continue being classy; otherwise the rude people win.
We can also report posts that are exceedingly rude and let the moderators take care of it. I don't remember all the forum rules verbatim, but I BET there is one against being rude. ;-)
Helge,Oh please stop the embarrassing virtue signaling and back slapping in the echo chamber guys! You’re sounding like teenage girls.
He’s a blatant classic example of a “nice guy”, humble bragging YouTuber, who is thinking he is covering his bases by coming with all kinds of disclaimers such as “in my opinion”, or “for me...”.
We know! This is not a religion.
He no doubt has a tonne of influence, and what he says will affect popular discourse and opinion for years to come.
You are obligated as a sane person to say the emperor has no clothes on when you see it.
You are not protecting a small, humble little guy here.
You are supporting a grownup who is selling a dream, getting a sizeable part of his income from peddling questionable advice to the masses.
Most notable YouTubers get some kind of income from their videos. That’s no secret. It’s the add program. Some for YT and some for the content creator.Helge,
I have no dog in this hunt. I have a Nikon 5000 ED scanner, and you will have to pry it out of my cold, dead fingers.How is this YouTuber getting income from his videos? If in fact that is his hidden motive, then he should be exposed. If not, then maybe he is just humble bragging, which is not exactly admirable in of itself.
But what we really, really need right now, more than anything, is a good, cheap and last but not least flexible scanner.
Good and cheap are not as mutually exclusive as they once were.
A problem with ‘DSLR scanning’ (and many dedicated film scanners) is holding the film flat and square to the optical axis. This problem becomes more critical (limiting) as you improve the lens and image sensor.
Basically your standard pseudo stealthy “humble” YouTube blowhard
Helge said:He’s an untalented idiot,.....with no real grasp of what he’s doing.
Helge said:He knows how to spend money and make his process and life in general look casually smooth in videos, but while he is using an enormous amount of resources and thought on that, his actual output and technique is just aping, or a simulacrum of something he’s seen.
What knowledge and skill is that? Show me just one good insight or clever thinking from him?
Helge said:Also much worse, show me just one great photograph (or even good) from him.
Helge said:For a professional guy his output is incredibly bland and cliché.
Helge said:He seems like a guy squandering an inheritance in chasing the dream of being a generic "real photographer", being a minor YouTube celebrity meanwhile to support his ego.
Helge said:But all that is really beside the point, my personal feelings and conjecture.
Helge said:Oh please stop the embarrassing virtue signaling and back slapping in the echo chamber guys! You’re sounding like teenage girls.
Helge said:He’s a blatant classic example of a “nice guy”, humble bragging YouTuber
YouTube/Google pays people for allowing ads to run on their videos. That is why you hear so many of them begging for us to "Click like and Subscribe" Clicking 'Like' teaches YouTube to recommend more videos from that channel to a viewer. Same with Subscribe.Helge,
... How is this YouTuber getting income from his videos? If in fact that is his hidden motive, then he should be exposed. If not, then maybe he is just humble bragging, which is not exactly admirable in of itself.
name calling.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
and it's making you look bad....do you see the irony here?
name calling
name calling.
Maybe, take a look at yourself and your own behavior before continuing in this vein ?
A. There is probably close to zero possibility that Epson is ever going to significantly touch the V800 series.There is a potential upgrade for the V800. It would consist in replacing the higher resolution lens to scan only 4" (or 6cm) instead 5.9". Right now film flatness is better ensured thanks to ANR holders so that enhacement may make sense.
Present design resolves 2900 effective dpi in the Hor axis, so with a longuer focal covering only 4" in theory it would resolve 2900*5.9/4 = 4277 dpi effective, the drawback is that only three 35mm film strips would fit in the 35mm holder, and only one 120 format strip.
Carriage drive should also be improved, I guess.
Also electronics can be enhanced, it is (amazingly) a 2006 product and I'd say that after 14 years there is room to make a cheaper/better electronics design with higher integration: A single board with less components, with lower connectivity costs. A new design should also be able to perform Multi-Exposure in a single pass, making both HDR exposures before advancing the carriage. Perhaps cost reduction in the PCBs manufacturing may pay for the design update.
Presently sensor is not limiting resolving power, of the 6400 dpi on sensor (it is +40k pix in 2 rgb rows) only 2900 are resolved horizontally.
In a perfect world the V800 substitute would incorporate a 3rd lens, displacing the lens holder also in the other direction.
Also Plusteks could be improved with a larger sensor with more pixels.
Problem is lack of competition and reduced market size, but perhaps if that "film flourishment" stays those manufacturers may make upgrades, now Hasselblad has abandoned and the related (small) Pro nich is not exploited.
If Epson/Plustek do not react in time with a convenient/faster/better design the future trend may be DSLR scanning.
I'm thinking line CCDs are getting scarce and expensive to make.A problem with ‘DSLR scanning’ (and many dedicated film scanners) is holding the film flat and square to the optical axis. This problem becomes more critical (limiting) as you improve the lens and image sensor.
This is why the Imacon/Hasselblad Flextight ‘virtual drum’ design was so good: by curving the film, a perfectly straight line was assured across the curve, and so grain-sharp focus across the whole frame was guaranteed as long as the line was perpendicular to the optical axis.
Perhaps that method, if it’s patented, could be licensed from DJI for a modest fee. Why would DJI decline now that Hasselblad is out of the scanning business?
I agree scanning is a major problem for film users. You see that by the lengths people go to to get antique Pakon scanners working on modern computers, and the success of VueScan (imagine the money that has brought in!), and the fact that many scanners (Coolscan models, Minoltas, etc., routinely sell for more than their new cost 15 or 20 years ago – even though they’re ticking time bombs or need Windows XP in many cases).
Consider that:
Making something like this would be an awful lot easier and cheaper today than it was 15 years ago. That’s why it’s such a mystery to me that no-one has done it yet.
- modern integrated electronics over a USB-C interface would take care of scanning times
- off-the-shelf (or nearly) Chinese optics would take care of the lens, even if you require an excellent one
- a modern sensor, if necessary an off-the-shelf camera sensor, could be pressed into service with better signal-to-noise and read-out speed than any line CCD from the Coolscan (or Epson V800) era
- the scanning software could (and should) be brutally simple (cheap to develop): no-one needs to edit or even crop in the scanning software today. All it should do is spit out a Raw file. And the DNG format is freely available for that
- easy software stitching might open up new possibilities for improving image quality in a low-cost scanner, for example having the lens and sensor cover only a 35 mm frame (for best quality) and do multiple passes for medium-format
- etc.
A. There is probably close to zero possibility that Epson is ever going to significantly touch the V800 series.
B. The upgrades needed would entail an entirely new design anyway.
The Epsons are far too expensive for what they offer
But Epson has a powerful industrial product development department that makes easy new reliable designs. Core know-how fields are supported by a legion of specialists that are very well coordinated, so they can issue complex new designs at a very fast pace. Anyway any product has to be profitable. I can't say if they will upgrade the V850 in the future, of course, but they have all the synergy that it would be necessary to make it easily.
You don't shoot medium format or large only to use a tenth of the resolution.It looks that you are not aware of the Epson capabilities. The Epson resolves 17000 pixels in a single pass on the scanned width, with a unique 40k pix sensor no other flatbed has, and with lenses able to resolve those 17000pix. In the Hor axir it resolves 2900dpi effective in a 5.9" width.
A recent serious test demonstrated that for MF and up the V700 equals Creo and Scanmate 11000 drum results, if you want I give you the details.
For 35mm it is true that we have better/choices choices, like the Plustek 8200, but for MF and up the V700-V850 has been best value for decade and an half.
name calling.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
Attacking the man.
and it's making you look bad....do you see the irony here?
name calling
name calling.
Maybe, take a look at yourself and your own behavior before continuing in this vein ?
Oh please! Explain exactly what “toxic” means.+1 @Helge toxic posts are embarrassing.
Oh please! Explain exactly what “toxic” means.
Apart from it being a favorite empty buzzword of the chronically offended.
If they had any intention of doing it, they would have done it years ago.
As said. they are coasting on fumes and are probably happy that way.
The lens in the Epsons is not very good. Real resolving power has been shown to be wayyy off specs sheet claims many a time in tests.
Yes, I'd sure like to see the test you mention.
It's not so much the resolution problems as the god-awful MTF performance - and there are high quality tests that show just how bad the performance really is.
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