For years I have used either D76 or ID-11, whichever was cheapest at the time of purchase. I want to get away from powder developers and was considering Rodinal as an alternative.
If anyone is using FP4 Plus in Rodinal for darkroom printing, which dilution do you think works best? 1+25 or 1+50?
Thanks in advance.
1+50 is smoother and not as contrasty as 1+25.
1+50 is smoother and not as contrasty as 1+25.
I like D76 ID-11 a lot, I'm just want to find a good liquid concentrate that keeps well as I don't want to mix dry powders anymore to make stock solutions.Keith, Never a great fan of 35mm FP4 in Rodinal. I endorse what pentaxuser mentioned in a previous post, over a certain size the grain can be too intrusive, although with 120 it is less noticeable. I still prefer ID11 for FP4 or DDX if I could afford it.
I make my own D76 from bulk and it is indeed finer grained than Rodinal but, it is also less sharp in 1+1.sharpness increases with dilution but never quite gets to the level of Rodinal, which is really no surprise.Keith, Never a great fan of 35mm FP4 in Rodinal. I endorse what pentaxuser mentioned in a previous post, over a certain size the grain can be too intrusive, although with 120 it is less noticeable. I still prefer ID11 for FP4 or DDX if I could afford it.
Maybe I should try hc110 or ilfotec HC instead.
….I'm just want to find a good liquid concentrate that keeps well….
+1. I hardly touch Rodinal for 35mm film. Not of the grain itself, grain can be nice. But with Rodinal it becomes very soon muddy on 35mmKeith, Never a great fan of 35mm FP4 in Rodinal. I endorse what pentaxuser mentioned in a previous post, over a certain size the grain can be too intrusive, although with 120 it is less noticeable. I still prefer ID11 for FP4 or DDX if I could afford it.
The ilfotec HC is cheaper than hc110 in the UK.Again, Keith, I will say this just in case, but think it is unnecessary in your case as you have a lot of experience. We none of us know whether to new HC110 has the longevity of the old. It may or may not. Equally I have never seen enough user evidence of Ilfotec HC either but I suspect it is quite a long time and there is quite a a large difference in price. The HC110 being several pounds more expensive
It all depends on your usage rate
pentaxuser
Rodinal gives outstanding sharpness and well-defined grain. It's a matter of taste and preference.
I have not heard of X T3. I'm guessing that it's an xtol clone.At least outstanding sharpness in grain
A bit off-topic: I (also) learned that HP5+ + Rodinal is not a good combo for 135. The grain becomes very very smushy, not a good looking grain at all. I wonder if that applies to FP4.
Foma's 1 liter Excel powders are pretty easy to use. Also Adox XT-3 is available in one liter - with that dust binding stuff it is very clean to use. Just second consideration to powder based developers.
I know Andréw Sanderson uses Rodinal for his 35mm HP5 Plus night photography photos.At least outstanding sharpness in grain
A bit off-topic: I (also) learned that HP5+ + Rodinal is not a good combo for 135. The grain becomes very very smushy, not a good looking grain at all. I wonder if that applies to FP4.
At least outstanding sharpness in grain
A bit off-topic: I (also) learned that HP5+ + Rodinal is not a good combo for 135. The grain becomes very very smushy, not a good looking grain at all. I wonder if that applies to FP4..
I fail to see how price can be of any consideration with developers. we are talking pennies per roll!The ilfotec HC is cheaper than hc110 in the UK.
I am also considering the ddx option that David mentioned, but it's an expensive option.
I'm still undecided to be honest.
This mushiness in Rodinal seems at odds with your first sentence as well as others experience which is that grain is more prominent but not more mushy.
Can I ask from whom did your learn this and did you actually see it in comparisons provided by your source or see it in your own experience?
I fail to see how price can be of any consideration with developers. we are talking pennies per roll!
DDX at a dilution of 1+4 works out far more expensive than Rodinal diluted 1+25 and especially 1+50. Like wise with hc110 at the weaker dilutions. I have heard good things about DDX though.I fail to see how price can be of any consideration with developers. we are talking pennies per roll!
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