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So they sell TMax 100? 😉

Nope.
But in my darkroom I've made good use of things like digital thermometers and coffee/X-Tol filters from there :smile:.
And if I needed a mixing pail ....
 

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Canadian Tire is more than a tire store. It seems to have some social context and a social meeting place on Saturday mornings that does not come through to the rest of us.
 

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Canadian Tire is more than a tire store. It seems to have some social context and a social meeting place on Saturday mornings that does not come through to the rest of us.

In some towns, like the one i live in, it's merely a generic modern hardware store
 

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I've been developing FP4+ in D23 (1:3) for higher acutance and the results are quite lovely. FP4+ has a very long tonal range and great shadow detail in this developer, which also has the advantage of controlling highlights under contrasty situations. My philosophy is: try lots things, and then stick to what you like. To my eyes, FP4+ (an older emulsion) and D23 (an even older developer) are a match made in heaven.
 

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I've been developing FP4+ in D23 (1:3) for higher acutance and the results are quite lovely. FP4+ has a very long tonal range and great shadow detail in this developer, which also has the advantage of controlling highlights under contrasty situations. My philosophy is: try lots things, and then stick to what you like. To my eyes, FP4+ (an older emulsion) and D23 (an even older developer) are a match made in heaven.

Agreed....the tonal range & shadow detail are what keep me using FP4+
 

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I was printing an old negative this morning. I had it in my head that the picture was taken on Tri-X, but today I realised that it was FP4, the old version. You could say I was 'non-plussed'. 😉
 

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I was printing an old negative this morning. I had it in my head that the picture was taken on Tri-X, but today I realised that it was FP4, the old version. You could say I was 'non-plussed'. 😉

Two minuses? :sad:
 

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Just so those south of the border don't think it's all Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons & igloos up here, there are other generic hardware outlets. I don't get any pushback from mixing my PF 130 in this:

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Just so those south of the border don't think it's all Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons & igloos up here, there are other generic hardware outlets. I don't get any pushback from mixing my PF 130 in this:

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I use a white paint bucket from a local paint store which I marked for 4 liters and 5 liters with a marking pen.
 

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Just so those south of the border don't think it's all Canadian Tire, Tim Hortons & igloos up here, there are other generic hardware outlets. I don't get any pushback from mixing my PF 130 in this:

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Hey, I would have used an illustration from the Lee Valley website, if I wasn't too cheap to spend that much :smile:
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The pour spout does look handy though :smile:
 

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I've been mixing developers in a bottle rather than an open pail, because I thought that it would reduce exposure to air which is the eventual cause of developers deteriorating. Here we have 4.5L (one imperial gallon) glass bottles which were used in the food industry before plastics. Do you think it would make much difference?
 

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I've been mixing developers in a bottle rather than an open pail, because I thought that it would reduce exposure to air which is the eventual cause of developers deteriorating. Here we have 4.5L (one imperial gallon) glass bottles which were used in the food industry before plastics. Do you think it would make much difference?

I would find it hard to mix solid chemicals with water in a glass bottle. Stirring in an open container only takes a short time and doesn't seem to have any effect of developer life.
 
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I would find it hard to mix solid checmicals with water in a glass bottle. Stirring in an open container only takes a short time and doesn't seem to have any effect of developer life.
I mix prepackaged chemicals in open containers. Dektol is stored in a floating lid 2 gal tank. Everything else goes into glass bottles with Polycone style caps.

I mix my own concoctions in a beaker on a hotplate with a magnetic stirrer, then stored in glass bottles with Polycone style caps. I have developers well over a year old mixed this way that work just fine.
 

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I've been mixing developers in a bottle rather than an open pail, because I thought that it would reduce exposure to air which is the eventual cause of developers deteriorating. Here we have 4.5L (one imperial gallon) glass bottles which were used in the food industry before plastics. Do you think it would make much difference?

I use an open pail with warm waters as specified in the directions because I can see whether or not it is completely mixed. I would not see the small particles in a bottle.
 
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