Fotoimpex shipping delays

[wyofilm]

Perhaps the thread title could be updated, as Fotoimpex clearly has answered!
Perhaps: "Fotoimpex shipping delays"?

I would prefer the title not be changed. For in reality, they never did satisfactorily answer why they didn't answer me before posting on Photrio.

 

[wyofilm]

As to shipping. Fotoimpex did contact DHL and was given a cut and past response from DHL's website - this is not Fotoimpex's fault.

I would hope that Fotoimpex changes shippers if they can, because from what I've learned DHL ain't getting it done. It isn't clear to me if Fotoimpex will ship via other couriers.

 

[wyofilm]

It has come to my attention that the time to receive products from Fotoimpex to at least some parts of the United States can exceed 8+ weeks. In fact, at this time the upper limit isn't known. DHL will provide no useful information.

The delay is entirely related to DHL and not to Fotoimpex.

For more details please see this related, but separate thread:
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...wont-you-answer-me.181018/page-3#post-2374101

Moderators: this might not be the ideal subforum and might rightly go elsewhere, but elsewhere wasn't clear to me.

 

[radiant]

Shouldn't the topic be "shippng delays from Europe to US via DHL" ?

 

[Anon Ymous]

As to shipping. Fotoimpex did contact DHL and was given a cut and past response from DHL's website - this is not Fotoimpex's fault.

I would hope that Fotoimpex changes shippers if they can, because from what I've learned DHL ain't getting it done. It isn't clear to me if Fotoimpex will ship via other couriers.

Hmmm, do you believe that in the current situation another courier would be any better? And assuming that there is one, are you willing to pay whatever they would charge?

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Title updated.

During the pandemic there are worldwide shipping delays that can affect any company due to the reduction of passenger flights, which often carry packages for courier services, and these delays are causing additional bottlenecks at customs. I’ve waited months for shipments from Japan or China to Hawai’i that typically take 5-10 days.

 

[wyofilm]

I regret the moderators changed the title in opposition to my request.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Duplicate threads merged.

 

[wyofilm]

During the pandemic there are worldwide shipping delays that can affect any company due to the reduction of passenger flights, which often carry packages for courier services, and these delays are causing additional bottlenecks at customs. I’ve waited months for shipments from Japan or China to Hawai’i that typically take 5-10 days.

True AND unrelated to Fotoimpex's mediocre communication with me.

 

[wyofilm]

Hmmm, do you believe that in the current situation another courier would be any better? And assuming that there is one, are you willing to pay whatever they would charge?

Yes. See below:

https://www.trackingmore.com/de-to-...o-get-a-package-from-germany-to-united-states

For more information click on 'detail' next to each courier.

Mind you DHL requires and extra 16 euros surcharge for their excellent service (from FotoImpex's checkout warning.)

 

[Ariston]

Title updated.

During the pandemic there are worldwide shipping delays that can affect any company due to the reduction of passenger flights, which often carry packages for courier services, and these delays are causing additional bottlenecks at customs. I’ve waited months for shipments from Japan or China to Hawai’i that typically take 5-10 days.

I regret the moderators changed the title in opposition to my request.

Unfortunately, the moderators here are very heavy-handed in censorship. I found nothing objectionable or misleading about the title, and the thread spoke for itself.

I take this tendency into consideration every time I renew my Photrio support, so I only renew for the shortest period. Everything else about the site is great.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Unfortunately, the moderators here are very heavy-handed in censorship.

Indeed on another thread I had a post deleted because it had a hint of politics when there was nothing political in the post, yet they will allow one person to derail a thread pushing it into the SoapBox thus rewarding the perpetrator to the detriment of all other participants.

 

[MattKing]

It isn't censorship. It would have been censorship if your original post was removed, including the complaints therein.
You might request adding something like "and communication difficulties" to the now amended title if you want the title to highlight that - just report this post and make the request in that report.

 

[wyofilm]

I didn't call it censorship. Others did. I did request the title not be changed. You guys changed it. I dislike it, but there it is.

 

[MattKing]

I didn't call it censorship. Others did. I did request the title not be changed. You guys changed it. I dislike it, but there it is.

I didn't change it - I don't have that power*. I did suggest that some sort of change to reflect the fact that communication had been established would be good.
I agree (in hindsight) that some sort of reference to your communication difficulties should remain.
*(excepting my mini-moderator powers in the MSA thread).

 

[Truzi]

I once had a post deleted that only had a "/". It was not a post that I edited and replaced with a slash... it was only ever a slash. The stated message was about trying to keep politics out of general threads. Perhaps it was the controversy of / as opposed to \ that was the problem. This is why I try to avoid typing ass-terisks.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I once had a post deleted that only had a "/". It was not a post that I edited and replaced with a slash... it was only ever a slash. The stated message was about trying to keep politics out of general threads. Perhaps it was the controversy of / as opposed to \ that was the problem. This is why I try to avoid typing ass-terisks.

One wonders if using a '|' would have made a difference.

 

[Ariston]

It isn't censorship. It would have been censorship if your original post was removed, including the complaints therein.
You might request adding something like "and communication difficulties" to the now amended title if you want the title to highlight that - just report this post and make the request in that report.

If the mod removes the title and puts what he or she wants it to say in its stead, it is censorship. The interwebs define censorship as the suppression or prohibition of speech. I don’t know what else you could call it.

It has happened to me more than once. In one instance, someone called me names for being critical of KEH. And I was censored, while the other person’s attacks were left in tact. I have never been personally out intentionally rude to anyone here.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If the mod removes the title and puts what he or she wants it to say in its stead, it is censorship. The interwebs define censorship as the suppression or prohibition of speech. I don’t know what else you could call it.

It has happened to me more than once. In one instance, someone called me names for being critical of KEH. And I was censored, while the other person’s attacks were left in tact. I have never been personally out intentionally rude to anyone here.

There is a monitor who lets his own prejudices pervade.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

...The interwebs define censorship as the suppression or prohibition of speech. I don’t know what else you could call it...

I'd call it moderation.

 

[MattKing]

If the mod removes the title and puts what he or she wants it to say in its stead, it is censorship. The interwebs define censorship as the suppression or prohibition of speech. I don’t know what else you could call it.

No, that is editing, to ensure the title is both brief and reflects the evolution of the thread.
Changing the post or any other substantive content in the thread would have been censorship (unless done for purely practical reasons like combining duplicate threads).
As I posted earlier, it would have been fine/desirable to also include reference in the title to communication problems.
Or I guess the title could be far, far, longer and include the facts that the OP ordered from Photoimpex, shipment was delayed, wasn't getting a response from Photoimpex when he tried to reach them, asked for a response here, got a response and explanation, learned about difficulties with shipments from Europe to the USA using DHL, etc., etc.
Titles are organizational and functional tools. And they are intended to be brief.
As an almost entirely irrelevant aside, it is a principle of statutory construction that the titles and subject headings of legislation have no effect on the meaning of the legislation itself.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If the mod removes the title and puts what he or she wants it to say in its stead, it is censorship. The interwebs define censorship as the suppression or prohibition of speech. I don’t know what else you could call it.

It has happened to me more than once. In one instance, someone called me names for being critical of KEH. And I was censored, while the other person’s attacks were left in tact. I have never been personally out intentionally rude to anyone here.

This is a private website so there is no guaranty of free speech.

 

[Deleted member 88956]

Orignal title was so prejudiced, it was concluding own question without input of any kind. Glad it was changed. Call it censoring or editing, it was needed.

 

[Donald Qualls]

This is a private website so there is no guaranty of free speech.

+1

You want free speech (what Americans call First Amendment protections) go get a soapbox and stand on a street corner (this may require a permit in some municipalities due to traffic control issues and hazards to pedestrians, or may currently be prohibited due to COVID-19 restrictions). Just don't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, or "Gun!" in a crowded airport terminal.

 

[MattKing]

This is a private website so there is no guaranty of free speech.

Well there may not be a guarantee, I think the site does encourage expression of opinions - even unpopular ones.
I'll repeat myself - the complaints about lack of communication remain there in the first post, for all to see.
And I wish I had referenced them when I suggested an alternative title.