Forte Double Weight Vs. Heavy Weight Paper

[asaphoto]

I was Looking on B&H's site thinking about ordering some Forte Warm Tone paper. I noticed that they have two diffrent kinds of Polygrade Warm Tone fiber base. One sayes Double Weight and is a bit more expensive and the other says Heavy Weight and is a bit less in price. I was wondering who has used this paper and knows the diffrence between the two. Also any infromantion of how Forte Warm Tone or Forte Regurlar works. Thanks a lot.

 

[Paul Sorensen]

I am not sure what B&H is selling, I buy my Forte repackaged from Freestyle and J&C and they sell warm tone in triple weight, also known as museum weight. By the way, I recommend both as much cheaper alternatives to buying Forte. Here is an example from Freestyle.

I use almost exclusively Forte. I find that the neutral paper really needs selenium to knock down the bluish green color, but it really takes the selenium, so be careful unless you want eggplant blacks. The warm is a very nice color when dried and responds very nicely to selenium. When wet it looks pretty green too. Personally I use the glossy warm tone because I am not a big fan of the very yellow base of the semi matte paper.

I absolutely love the stuff and from J&C and Freestyle, the price is fantastic as well.

 

[Marco Gilardetti]

Some things only happen in the States. They always see misterious "green casts" in Forte Polywarmtone plus, they always have problems loading Paterson plastic reels... Quite amusing.

This thread was supposed to go in the B&W section, methinks.

 

[Paul Sorensen]

Some things only happen in the States. They always see misterious "green casts" in Forte Polywarmtone plus, they always have problems loading Paterson plastic reels... Quite amusing.

This thread was supposed to go in the B&W section, methinks.

I resent that remark, I never have problems with Paterson reels!

Oh, and I guess that elections too close to call complete with legal wrangling are no longer our exclusive province, are they?

 

[Gabe Racz]

Some things only happen in the States. They always see misterious "green casts" in Forte Polywarmtone plus, they always have problems loading Paterson plastic reels... Quite amusing.

This thread was supposed to go in the B&W section, methinks.

Funny, I was having troubles w/ a Patterson reel this weekend, switched to a steel reel & things worked great. Now I know why!

 

[Tom Hoskinson]

"they always have problems loading Paterson plastic reels... "

I never have problems loading Paterson plastic reels. This may be because I never use them...

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

"they always have problems loading Paterson plastic reels... "

I never have problems loading Paterson plastic reels. This may be because I never use them...

I agree- Jobo Expert drums are just so much more straightforward Just bend the sheet film, emulsion in, and slide into the tube!

Maybe you don't have the green in your Forte because you're not using a bromide-based paper developer. Dektol, which is an extremely popular paper developer over here, is the primary culprit for causing this.

 

[Marco Gilardetti]

Oh, and I guess that elections too close to call complete with legal wrangling are no longer our exclusive province, are they?

Touché

 

[Ole]

This thread was supposed to go in the B&W section, methinks.

Moved.

I like Forte papers myself, by the way. Very responsive to toning as well as changes in developer, and liths very well too. So if it goes green, try a different developer. It's worth it.

 

[Neal]

Dear asaphoto,

When I looked at the B&H site, I could only find one type of Forte Polywarmtone+ fiber paper. B&H has simply incorrectly labled the paper as "Heavy Weight". The "Double Weight" (Forte's description) is for the neutral tone paper.

Neal Wydra

 

[blackmelas]

Forte=ADOX not truly triple wt

I was Looking on B&H's site thinking about ordering some Forte Warm Tone paper. I noticed that they have two diffrent kinds of Polygrade Warm Tone fiber base. One sayes Double Weight and is a bit more expensive and the other says Heavy Weight and is a bit less in price. I was wondering who has used this paper and knows the diffrence between the two. Also any infromantion of how Forte Warm Tone or Forte Regurlar works. Thanks a lot.

I've noticed confusion (or perhaps just a change since Forte has had problems) regarding the weight of Forte paper and the other brands that use Forte, namely ADOX. I've mentioned in other posts that I haven't been able to get Forte PWT locally now for since August 2005, so recently I ordered ADOX PWT FB from fotoimpex.de. Likewise it was supposed to be museum or triple weight but was noticably lighter when I opened the package. I weighed both and the ADOX is about 280g/m2 versus Forte at about 330g/m2. For compairision Ilford lists MGIV at 255g/m2.
I have been happy with the emulsion of the ADOX and so the weight change doesn't bother me but it was just something I noticed...
James

 

[Philippe-Georges]

Yes, film reels...
They must be very dry (a lot more than a martini...) and I wash them in plain warm water after each use (they get sticky after a wile, I do not kwow why but it happens), but now their are no more troubles.

Philippe

 

[tony lockerbie]

Patterson reels- just wash and dry 'em well- no more problems, unlike stainless steel which bends eventually causing much gnashing of teeth especially with 120. I found that if I developed Forte warm tone in Agfa mc developer it gave a steely grey tone! I usually process the paper in D72 or Ansco130 (glycin) which both give a slight greenish tone. Tony