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I want to force expire some film quickly. Don't worry it's not expensive film (Kodak Gold). Anybody know what's best I thought of sticking it through the dryer, or in the toaster oven. Anybody know what's best?
 

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Don't know what is best, but here are a couple of other options that come to mind:

Pull it out of the cassette and wind it back in. (Do it fast so it isn't totally fogged).

Send through a checked luggage scanner at the airport.

Feed it to your dog (or pet goat, if you have one) and use it after you retrieve it.
 

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Oh... forget about the last idea. That would be "excreted", not "expired".
 

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Don't know what is best, but here are a couple of other options that come to mind:

Pull it out of the cassette and wind it back in. (Do it fast so it isn't totally fogged).

Send through a checked luggage scanner at the airport.

Feed it to your dog (or pet goat, if you have one) and use it after you retrieve it.

Or just buy some expired film on ebay.
 

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Leave it in a hot car for a couple of days. Put it in your attic for a few days. Microwaving it will likely do nothing as the actual film is in a metal can. Faraday shielding will prevent the actual microwave energy to get to the film. Besides, there's very little water to actually heat up.

You don't want it so hot that it'll melt though. So oven is out.
 

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I want to force expire some film quickly. Don't worry it's not expensive film (Kodak Gold). Anybody know what's best I thought of sticking it through the dryer, or in the toaster oven. Anybody know what's best?

I'm don't really shoot expired film but my thinking is that you should pull the development or overexpose the film. Pulling I believe reduces contrast and color saturation and I would expect that to happen with expired film.

But more importantly, what effect are you after? You can control the grain and contrast with pushing and pulling and if you want weird colors then cross-process.
 

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You are assuming the film is 35mm. The OP never said, for all we know it could be 120mm or sheet film.
But he did say it is Kodak Gold.
 

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Leave it in a hot car for a couple of days. Put it in your attic for a few days. Microwaving it will likely do nothing as the actual film is in a metal can. Faraday shielding will prevent the actual microwave energy to get to the film. Besides, there's very little water to actually heat up.

You don't want it so hot that it'll melt though. So oven is out.

Plenty of organic chemicals absorb microwaves and thus heat up.
 

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You are assuming the film is 35mm. The OP never said, for all we know it could be 120mm or sheet film.


Kodak GOLD (which OP has said) is a 35mm film. I *think* it was available in something else long time ago but those has aged all on its own. So I think I assumed right....
 

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You're also assuming we don't just want to see flames in a microwave and the aging of the film is of secondary concern...


It's also true, OP didn't exactly say how he wanted the film to "expire...".... Flame will certainly *expire* it! :D:D:blink:
 

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Plenty of organic chemicals absorb microwaves and thus heat up.


YES! Metal in certain length will also resonate with the microwave energy and dissipate as heat. But will film do THAT? I've "cooked" photographic paper once in microwave. It did absolutely nothing. I guess this calls for an experiment! Muahahaha.... (mad scientist cap on) I've exploded fish once in a microwave. Boy that was messy.... but I guess that's not related to this topic.
 

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Why?
Why?​
Why?​
 

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Put it in your car's glove box, a greenhouse, on a hot windowsill or a heater/radiator/your central heating boiler for a few months.
 

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Folks- we're talking about Kodak GOLD here... that stuff was designed to basically never die - it's the zombie of 35mm roll film. Kodak engineers made it so it would produce useable images after sitting in the glove box for a year, or capturing three successive Christmases before being processed. So it would take a LOT to get it to go bad. Buy some in winter-time and store it in the furnace room over the winter, ideally next to or on top of a gas or oil furnace. I don't think an electric heat pump is going to cut it. Maybe put it in a Ziploc bag, making sure the bag is watertight, and then boil it on the stove until the pot runs dry.
 

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Also, we're was the OP the last 2 months when I was selling all my expired gold film haha!

I have 2 rolls left, do you want to compare my actual expired gold to your experimented fake expired?

Also, flying camera, my Kodak gold looked awful, I don't think it's as much a zombie as you think.


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I've tried to "harm" different photographic materials (film, paper) in the past in order to get the "expired" or "old" look on the picture, sometimes with visible results. There were times though, that the manipulation (heating, scratching, boiling etc) had no visible result at all. It depends on the type of material and (of course) the way someone tries to harm it... in the end, I didn't really succeed to end up with an infallible method of producing such effects...
 
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