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What washes out of Rocks and underground aquifers, is part of a plan by God/Nature. This is what is Supposed to be there.
What is NOT supposed to reach the Earth is the stuff that is produced Photographers/Industry/Modern Man.
 

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it wasn't a litre, it was his loft studio ( commercial shooter ) and yes he was fined all that $$.
it hasnot a thing to do with what washes out of rocks in aquifers but what
the laws say. where i live used to have more electroplates than you can imagine
the costume jewelry capital of the world and the bay was a toxic waste dump. people dumped
their stuff down the drain for decades and it went into the bay, espeically if it rained

That sounds really severe for a sewer permit violation. I wonder if he was dumping direct to surface water, and so was subject to EPA enforcement rather than to the local municipality. Or perhaps ignored a sewer disconnect order or that sort of thing.

Regarding the local electroplaters, I'm guessing that they used something like silver nitrate such that the silver was mostly in ionic form, which is considered pretty bad for aquatic life. Photofinishing silver is a different animal, sometimes being reported as something like 10,000 to 20,000 times less toxic than ionic silver.

here's a bit from an early (1980ish) EPA Guidance Document (for photofinishing): page vi-21 "A principle constitutuent of the fix solution is the thiosulfate ion which forms a complex with silver. The silver-thiosulfate complex is stable (it has a dissociation constant of 3.5 x 10^-14) and non-toxic to fish (bioassay test showed no effect on fathead minnows after 96 hours of exposure to the silver thiosulfate complex at concentrations up to 50 mg/l as silver)."

For what it's worth, that 50 mg/l silver is a bit below what we normally consider the lower limit for an electrolytic silver recovery unit, but it's generally doable with a reduced current in a "terminal" desilvering operation.

Anyway, the normal photoprocessing silver is considered fairly benign, and it is thought that the overly stringent limits may have been set for a different form (ionic) of silver.
 

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What washes out of Rocks and underground aquifers, is part of a plan by God/Nature. This is what is Supposed to be there.
What is NOT supposed to reach the Earth is the stuff that is produced Photographers/Industry/Modern Man.

LOL that's kind of funny. i met a whet platr a while back who told me he just poured his KCn in his back yard
cause he was taught it came from the earth he was just putting it back .. kind of freaked me out.

That sounds really severe for a sewer permit violation. I wonder if he was dumping direct to surface water, and so was subject to EPA enforcement rather than to the local municipality.

yeah pretty severe ...
and the commission in charge of monitoring "stuff"
is still around and from what i know still fines people for being non compliant.
they used to do spot checks.
the guy i referred to had this happen to him in the 90s
and it scared the living daylights out of everyone ( schools/institutions/individuals/pros et al. )
was written up in the newspapers and was the talk of the town for a long time.
 

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LOL that's kind of funny. i met a whet platr a while back who told me he just poured his KCn in his back yard
cause he was taught it came from the earth he was just putting it back .. kind of freaked me out.
Yeah, we pump crude oil FROM The Earth, so what could be wrong with dumping used motor oil in your backyard.?
Modern Man is a Cancerous Sickness. We all know the cure for cancer.
On a positive note, there can be no doubt that "We" are the sole reason Space Travelers have not landed on our planet and taken it over like Nazis of 1941. Generally speaking, a life-from does not go to a place that is a Toxic Nightmare. :smile:

I can only guess at the amount of Face-Palming that God must be doing these days........."Nuclear Power Plants....!!!???? Why do those idiots think i put the Sun Hundreds of Millions of Miles away, and surrounded Earth with an atmosphere and a Magnetic Field.?"
 

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You could do what I used to do... store spent chemicals in a large bucket and let the solution evaporate away, leaving a sludge behind. I kept the bucket outside in a covered area, with window screening duct taped over top.... to keep birds out and other critters out.
I remember reading somewhere that someone used to dump developer, and stop bath together into the tray of fixer, then dump outside on their lawn. Said it made a great fertiliser. Never tried it and no idea if it's okay to do...
 

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I should add that I would keep adding solutions to this bucket. I still have the bucket, and all solutions have evaporated away. One of these days I'll dispose of it at the local waste disposal facility.
 

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One thing that helps reduce the volume of waste liquid is to replenish as much as much as you can, especially developers and toners.
Also stop bath can be re-used and fixer can be used to capacity ( a two bath regimen might be a good idea if you do this ).
 
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