Fogged paper for lith printing

[Melvin J Bramley]

Just how badly fogged can a paper be to be useful for lith printing.
I have a lot of Agfa Portriga and Multicontrast FB and even more Agfa RC paper that is fogged.
I would like to see it salvaged!

 

[koraks]

Try it out and see. There's not really a quantitative measure that can be put to it.

 

[Don_ih]

I have successfully lith printed Multicontrast Agfa paper that's way too fogged for regular printing. I have hundreds of sheets of it, so it's good that it works. Too bad I hate lith printing...

Whether or not yours works depends on how fogged it is.

 

[xkaes]

The problem with fogged paper is dull whites. If that happens they can be quickly lightened up by using some dilute bleach (several types to choose from) without impacting the blacks.

 

[Melvin J Bramley]

I have no interest in lith printing, I will likely put it up for sale.

 

[Don_ih]

I like lith prints - I just don't like lith printing - it takes too long.

 

[xkaes]

I have no interest in lith printing, I will likely put it up for sale.

Then why ask us how you can salvage it?

 

[pentaxuser]

The why ask us how you can salvage it?

It might help the OP ín deciding whether he can say it is still "lithable" ( is there such a word?) as he mentioned in his thread?

pentaxuser

 

[xkaes]

I have no interest in lith printing, I will likely put it up for sale.

Thanks, but I was asking the OP.

 

[Buzz-01]

I have some seriously fogged Agfa paper, zone 4 or 3 fogged in normal developer, which gives wonderful results in Lith.
So if you don't intend to use it yourself, a Lith printer out there will probably be really happy with it.

 

[ic-racer]

Give the paper plenty of exposure and see if it works for you.

I recently tried some paper previously known to’lith’ well. The paper was over 20 years old and was useless.

 

[pentaxuser]

Thanks, but I was asking the OP.

I just put forward a possible explanation as to why he was asking that seemed fairly obvious to me. Perhaps you were not looking for possible explanations because you couldn't think of any but because you want his specific reasons. In which case he may oblige but if not mine seemed to be one of a range of possible reasons

pentaxuser

 

[xkaes]

Gotcha.

 

[Melvin J Bramley]

I ask will it be useful for someone who does lith printing.

 

[Don_ih]

I ask will it be useful for someone who does lith printing.

But it depends on how badly fogged it is. We can say that Agfa papers lith nicely as much as we want but it doesn't mean the stack that you have will. The only way you can claim it's useful for lith printing is if you (or someone else) lith prints it and gets a good result.

 

[xkaes]

You mean you're suggesting the paper be "tested"? While I agree with you, you better be careful. Suggesting someone do actual "testing" apparently makes some people "testy".

 

[Don_ih]

Suggesting someone do actual "testing" apparently makes some people "testy".

I see I'm not the only one to notice.

 

[pentaxuser]

It would seem that based on the replies you have 2 choices if selling
1. Get a few sheets "lithed" and show prospective buyers the examples
2. Sell as fogged paper which may be OK for lith and show the extent of the fogging for prospective buyers but explain that you haven't the means to lith so its untested

I'd give as much info on the paper as possible so the buyer knows as much as is possible. It's then the buyers decision

This may be what you have concluded anyway. No reason why your reasoning isn't every bit as good as mine

pentaxuser

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

Agfa Portriga and MCC will work fine in Lith.
No matter the age for the Portriga, older even better.
MCC box without the picture work better in Lith.

 

[Don_ih]

Another use - an really useful use, actually - for fogged paper: paper negatives. The fog reduces contrast, which is usually a problem with paper shot in a camera. Since the fog is uniform, it essentially disappears when a positive is made. Provided the paper isn't too fogged, that is.