Fisher-Price (kodak) 110 camera, advice needed about exposure

[Bill Burk]

Stone,

You can look on Ebay for the occasional 110 Verichrome Pan 12 exp roll... There's a couple there now.

While some later-generation 110 cameras could tell the film speed from notches, the first generation were naturally set to ASA 100. The Model 20 that I started out with had two speeds, slow speed enabled by using a flash. I used to keep matchsticks in my pocket to take advantage of this fact on cloudy/overcast days.

(So, it IS an adjustable camera).

 

[cl3mens]

I've heard some pretty nasty things about the first gen. Kodacolor 400 in 35 mm. Prints from the 110 version must look like mud. I'd love to see examples from it when it was fresh.

If I ever get around to building some sort of device for perforating film for 110 I'd definitly load up some Superia 1600 and go for it.

 

[Truzi]

This thread reminds me that I loaded a couple 126 cartridges with unperfed (& hand punched) 35mm. I've been waiting for a sunny day, but now remember the flash adapter I have. My Grandmother's Minolta has a bit of a problem firing the flash at times (probably why she stopped using it). I'm going to test it out now, and maybe take some flash pictures with it this week.

cl3m3ns, you can get a tiny punch and make a little jig. I've not gotten around to mine yet. For 126, I went to an art store and found a punch about the right size, and used a couple pieces of balsa wood as a guide. It's a pain, but works. You might find this thread interesting:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

For 110, the index hole is between the frames. So long as you space them correctly, and put them the right distance from the edge of the film, it should be fine. It may waste more film if the punch is too big, but it should work.
Also, test the camera you intend to use. My best friend's 110 cocks the shutter after two "winds." I held the indexing pin in, and it still fired the shutter - so perfs may not be necessary (they are on my Grandmother's Minolta, though).

 

[AgX]

I've heard some pretty nasty things about the first gen. Kodacolor 400 in 35 mm. Prints from the 110 version must look like mud. I'd love to see examples from it when it was fresh.

Kodacolor 400 type 110 was a modified conversion, by this taking care for the special needs of that format.

 

[bsdunek]

While it is heavy on the Pentax 110, scroll to the bottom and there is info on the speed setting tab.
http://cameraquest.com/pentx110.htm
I enjoy my 110 cameras with Lomography Orca B&W and Color Tiger. I, being a good AUPG'r, process the B&W myself. It's a pretty nice film with a real speed of 100. The Color Tiger is 200, and also does very well. I tried some Lobster red scale and found it interesting. Made an 11X14 print and was surprised how good it looked. People don't believe it was done with 110.
While I do most of my work with 35mm and 6X7, I sure have fun with 110 and my Minox.

 

[StoneNYC]

While it is heavy on the Pentax 110, scroll to the bottom and there is info on the speed setting tab.
http://cameraquest.com/pentx110.htm
I enjoy my 110 cameras with Lomography Orca B&W and Color Tiger. I, being a good AUPG'r, process the B&W myself. It's a pretty nice film with a real speed of 100. The Color Tiger is 200, and also does very well. I tried some Lobster red scale and found it interesting. Made an 11X14 print and was surprised how good it looked. People don't believe it was done with 110.
While I do most of my work with 35mm and 6X7, I sure have fun with 110 and my Minox.

Thanks for the info that's great to hear, question your 11 x 14 print was that optically printed or scanning the negative and then printing that separately?

I know that lomography had a black-and-white film at least one, and I know they also make a C-41 version that is also black and white I believe, as well as the color ones, and the red scale which is just the film with the emulsion side in instead of out I believe...

I was hoping to find a 400 speed black-and-white film if possible, anyone know who sells that, new?

 

[StoneNYC]

I did it, I bought a few Lomo rolls of the 110 film. Still looking for 400 speed stuff.

 

[bsdunek]

Thanks for the info that's great to hear, question your 11 x 14 print was that optically printed or scanning the negative and then printing that separately?

I know that lomography had a black-and-white film at least one, and I know they also make a C-41 version that is also black and white I believe, as well as the color ones, and the red scale which is just the film with the emulsion side in instead of out I believe...

I was hoping to find a 400 speed black-and-white film if possible, anyone know who sells that, new?

I should have clarified, that the 11X14 print from 110 redscale was commercially done. I don't print color, Just B&W. In that case, yes, it was a digital print from scanned film.
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As for 400 speed B&W, there was a brand called Fukkatsu around last year. They must have made just one run each of 100 & 400 B&W and color films. I bought a bunch, but no one seems to have it any more. The last was at Ultrafine On Line: http://www.ultrafineonline.com/fu110foco400.html But their out now too.

You can reload: http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/roll110.htm or http://www.geocities.com/markhahn2000/110_reload.htm or http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/splitter.htm

Enjoy!

 

[StoneNYC]

I should have clarified, that the 11X14 print from 110 redscale was commercially done. I don't print color, Just B&W. In that case, yes, it was a digital print from scanned film.
w
As for 400 speed B&W, there was a brand called Fukkatsu around last year. They must have made just one run each of 100 & 400 B&W and color films. I bought a bunch, but no one seems to have it any more. The last was at Ultrafine On Line: http://www.ultrafineonline.com/fu110foco400.html But their out now too.

You can reload: http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/roll110.htm or http://www.geocities.com/markhahn2000/110_reload.htm or http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/splitter.htm

Enjoy!

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for some 400 speed film anyway, and I'll Google that company I'm sure some of it might be on eBay.

It's just not worth bothering to reload for me, doing all that cutting and splitting etc., I really wish Kodak hadn't done what they did and instead made it so that regular old 16mm film you know movie film that is could be used, I thought about it possibly where you would be able to take a small piece of tape and cover over the exact amount of holes until you got to the next perforation that would pull that switch to tell the camera to be ready to shoot, but it all just seems like about a lot of work, The most unwilling to do is to reroll some 127 with backing paper but that's about it... After having done lots and lots of re-rolling of other film types, I'm convinced it's just not worth the time and effort for me...

But thanks for the links they are of course helpful to anyone else looking to do this sort of thing and I'm sure that someone will come across this thread and find those links very useful.

This place is awesome! Always in all of just how much great APUG knowledge there is out there.

 

[Sirius Glass]

There are no adjustment to be made on that camera.

I do not remember whether or not it compensated for film speed. I always thought it was a simple box camera that took sharp photographs. Prints might be hard to make on your own because the film was exposed curved and needed to be printed curved.

 

[StoneNYC]

I do not remember whether or not it compensated for film speed. I always thought it was a simple box camera that took sharp photographs. Prints might be hard to make on your own because the film was exposed curved and needed to be printed curved.

Don't worry, I'll be using a scanner