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analoguey

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We should probably have traveling APUG chaps bring stuff out, on rotation! ;-)

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Thats great!
Thanks.
Wonder if Yodobashi ships out? (will have to look up the translated details on the desktop)

Yodobashi may not, but Japan Exposures does. However, their mark-up is a bit more than what you can get at Yodobashi.

This thread actually reminded me that I have some Fuji chemicals to try out. In Japan they are cheaper than Kodak or Ilford chemicals (as is the paper), but I'm a girl of habit, so for the most part have stuck to what I know, unless I can't get it here (for example, Photoflo is impossible to get, but Fuji's equivalent is Driwel, which works exactly the same). You may notice in the photos below another brand called Chugai: it's cheap and everywhere, even the small little mom and pop shops that still sell some film. I like the Fujibro paper, it's what I usually use for the postcard exchanges and to make contact/work prints. It's a fast paper and dries nice and flat. Here are a couple of old threads that I started about its lithability: (there was a url link here which no longer exists) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Fujifilm (and other products at Kyoto Yodobashi Camera: not nearly as good as Osaka or Tokyo, but better than most cities)
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Quick snaps of part of my own stash:
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If you are an experienced 35mm shooter, just use what film your used to!
 
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Thanks, guys for taking the time to share your experience and ideas!
 
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The first thing you should shoot is whatever film/developer combo you use in 35mm. It's really the only way to get a baseline comparison, so you can see what the format change does for you, without introducing other variables.

This.
 

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I also agree that the best plan by far would be to use the 120 version of whatever you have been using and make your decision from there. Film choice is an entirely subjective decision.

But for what it's worth I really like Acros 100 in 120. If I need extra speed then Tri-X or HP5 are both nice but I almost always use a tripod so 100 speed is fine. Plus Acros has almost no reciprocity failure so great for night shots too.
 

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The most important thing to take away from this thread is that there still are a lot of choices, and a lot of different people like different ones - i.e. it is hard to go really wrong.

My preferences for 120:

Ektachrome 100G (no, you cannot have any of my stash!)
Portra 160 and Portra 400
Plus-X, and then when my last few rolls are gone :sad:, T-Max 100
T-Max 400 (an amazing film!)
 

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Yodobashi may not, but Japan Exposures does. However, their mark-up is a bit more than what you can get at Yodobashi.

This thread actually reminded me that I have some Fuji chemicals to try out. In Japan they are cheaper than Kodak or Ilford chemicals (as is the paper), but I'm a girl of habit, so for the most part have stuck to what I know, unless I can't get it here (for example, Photoflo is impossible to get, but Fuji's equivalent is Driwel, which works exactly the same). You may notice in the photos below another brand called Chugai: it's cheap and everywhere, even the small little mom and pop shops that still sell some film. I like the Fujibro paper, it's what I usually use for the postcard exchanges and to make contact/work prints. It's a fast paper and dries nice and flat. Here are a couple of old threads that I started about its lithability: (there was a url link here which no longer exists) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Fujifilm (and other products at Kyoto Yodobashi Camera: not nearly as good as Osaka or Tokyo, but better than most cities)
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Quick snaps of part of my own stash:
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Wow!
Moose, it looks more like this is what is sustaining Fuji! (and the film market!)
Makes me kick myself for not having explored the film camera stores cos they had "old cameras".
I am checking the Fujibro paper out now.
I wonder what the experience with ordering from Japan Exposures is like.

Wow, have not seen a store with stock like that in a long long time.
I haven't seen any such at all.
 

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We all have our favorite films. My suggestion is to shoot a little of everything and find what you like. You have a nice camera to shoot it with. A Hasselblad is a joy to use.

This is the best advice, you have to try everything! I had a Fujifilm 400H Pro phase, I bought it by the box. Now, I basically shoot Ektar exclusively. It really depends on the time of year, as well. Every film has its own distinct personality.
 

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Wow!
Moose, it looks more like this is what is sustaining Fuji! (and the film market!)
Makes me kick myself for not having explored the film camera stores cos they had "old cameras".
I am checking the Fujibro paper out now.
I wonder what the experience with ordering from Japan Exposures is like.


I haven't seen any such at all.

It's a pity that Fuji doesn't see the need of exporting this products worldwide.

My tip to you, is to befriend someone from Japan who is willing to ship the items to you and give them some kick back. It will be cheaper than Japan Exposures.
 
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So, I picked up on the idea shared by many of you to start using the same film that I've experienced on 35mm. Still, I was thinking that most of my medium format photography would be firmly resting on a tripod, so I would concentrate on slower film. And, I want Fuji Pro 400h. Thus, I ordered 10x TMax 100, 5x Ektar and 5x 5x Pro 400h. Now, after a few days, I find myself doing a lot of handheld anyways, so I'm ordering a bunch of Tri-X.
 

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So, I picked up on the idea shared by many of you to start using the same film that I've experienced on 35mm. Still, I was thinking that most of my medium format photography would be firmly resting on a tripod, so I would concentrate on slower film. And, I want Fuji Pro 400h. Thus, I ordered 10x TMax 100, 5x Ektar and 5x 5x Pro 400h. Now, after a few days, I find myself doing a lot of handheld anyways, so I'm ordering a bunch of Tri-X.

I shoot 99.99% handheld. Actually, I have used tripod once with my hasselblad. It's small, portable and ergonomics are great for shooting handheld.

The whole point of MF for me is that I can use more grainy film and it looks smooth. If anything I will use slower films more in 35mm since the shutter speeds are slower. Even delta 3200 looks smooth in 6x6 (to certain extent).

I might use tripod with it once again in future...
 

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+1 to 99% handheld.
With a Mamiya RB67.
I have only used a tripod for shots which have been >1/4s in exposure time - mostly landscapes. And mostly slow speed film.

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analoguey could you post a hi res scan of a shot you handheld at 1/8 of a second? I would be fascinated to see how sharp it looks. I find even 1/30 on a tripod with the 90mm lens (its mirror-up function is broken) is sometimes a little shakey. Certainly 1/15 seems to be a crapshoot. With my other lenses on mirror up of course there is no problem.
 

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I can do 1/30 easily on my RB67 and even 1/15 comes out good most of the time. 1/4...that's a challenge I'll have to take next :wink:
 

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analoguey could you post a hi res scan of a shot you handheld at 1/8 of a second? I would be fascinated to see how sharp it looks. I find even 1/30 on a tripod with the 90mm lens (its mirror-up function is broken) is sometimes a little shakey. Certainly 1/15 seems to be a crapshoot. With my other lenses on mirror up of course there is no problem.

Really? I have taken both street and cat photos at lower than 1/30, one to test the Floating lens element bit.
I dont have a scanner myself, will see if I can contact print n post a digital of it?
(I'll also just check my notes to see which ones)
[edit - missed that you asked for a hi-res. File size is limited on here, I'll have to scan off an Epson v600, and post it -would that be close to what youre looking for?]
Do you hold at waist level? If you shoot handheld? And is your tripod a good, strong one?

Analoguey: 1/4s in exposure time without a tripod? Do you have a third leg? :blink:

Hehehe.
I meant 1/8, should've said >= 1/4.
I'll try and get a scan up :smile:


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yeah I don't really shoot handheld. my tripod is theoretically more than strong enough - most of the time 1/30 is fine but occasionally not, which I attribute to mirror slap. 1/15 or 1/8 shows mirror slap effects more frequently.
 

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If you're tripod is strong, Are you sure it's mirror slap, on tripod? Are you getting same results with a cable release or shooting off a stable surface -table/wall etc.,? (with >=1/15s exposure)

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yeah I always shoot with cable release and it has happened on more stable surfaces in the past. also never happens with the other lenses which I use in mirror up most of the time.
 
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