Yeah PaulJust saw a beautiful 60's Camaro SS today, rump, rump, rump said the cam.
Yeah Paul..so there have been indeed some costs during the 70th you have forgotten !
with regards
PS : What was cheap during the 70th?
3 main thinks 1) energy 2) energy 3) energy....a global problem today!
I guess Lomo can live confortable from pricing today! Within the last years Lomo had massiveThe stuff Lomography palms off as color film for "artists" at $9.00-$10.00 a roll is more expensive than normal film, and they seem to be doing a good business.
The stuff Lomography palms off as color film for "artists" at $9.00-$10.00 a roll is more expensive than normal film, and they seem to be doing a good business.
Not all their film is wonky. They are a source of conventional films at good prices. I just bought a three pack of Lomo 110 ISO 200 color neg film for $18.
Even if all their stock was free, they still have to load, create packaging, and distribute. My hat is off to them.
An interesting business story, how crappy Russian cameras became a world wide, if small, empire complete with real stores!
I live minutes away from a border crossing, and can and do have (at a small cost) stuff shipped to a parcel receiving service just across the border.I'm not sure about BC, but I could get overnight to NY on economy bus and if I return same day it is free ticket.
Over 100$ is free shipping from BH to GTA.
I believe the film market hit it's bottom a few years ago and is now at least stable and probably will witness modest growth. I know quite a few people who have either gone back to shooting film (after "going digital") or who are trying film for the first time. Just yesterday an acquaintance in his late 30s saw a post on my facebook page about film processing and remarked "I didn't know Kodak were still making film!"....he then did a bit of googling and asked me about Adox and their current B&W films. Another friend in her mid 30s has just this week bought two medium format Yashica TLRs and an Olympus 35mm SLR and a few rolls of Kentmere for the 35mm. Another friend who learned film photography 15 years ago but hadn't shot film in well over a decade (also mid 30s) just bought a brick and half of Fomapan 120 film to add to her stash of 35mm C41 films. She's also acquired "new" film cameras in the last 12 months. Other friends and acquaintances are shooting the occasional roll of either 135 or 120 after years of not doing so.
It seems to me that often these people lived under the belief that film was no longer available. Once they see it is, and see especially the choice we have in B&W film....they're interest is piqued again. Said friend who bought three film cameras in the last week is now looking at developing her film for the first time ever and a film scanner. All good for the manufacturers of film, chemicals and scanners.
If this isn't just my friends, and is repeated elsewhere....there will be a tangible rise in film sales. But profits are currently so marginal that it probably won't mean a reduction in prices. What it might mean, however, is that we all get to enjoy the relatively rich variety of films that we have for a lot longer. As Adox tells us, we need new people to be trained in manufacturing films, papers, chemicals....and some R&D into improved or even new products.
As noted above, Kodak stock prices are escalating.
Kodak and Alaris know what is happening in the film world. Since people in the biz keep track of sales all over the world, not difficult to put a wet finger in the wind.
The two companies would not have started new lines of old films ; still (Alaris) and movie films (Kodak.)
I was away from Luz, the photo dominatrix for three and a half years. I can't believe how the options have expanded. I got rid of my nice Polaroid bellows cameras when I moved. No film available. Sigh.
Just out of curiosity, Matt. When you collect the goods on the U.S side and effectively import them into Canada are there any taxes to be paid? I am assuming that if there are, this is still cheaper than buying in Canada?I live minutes away from a border crossing, and can and do have (at a small cost) stuff shipped to a parcel receiving service just across the border.
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Technically, the border officials can charge me any import duties that might be due, plus the provincial and federal sales taxes (which total together to 12%) on the value plus that duty. Items that originate (i.e. are manufactured) in Canada, the US or Mexico (such as most Kodak products) should be free from duty, but items originating from the UK (such as Ilford) usually attract some duty.Just out of curiosity, Matt. When you collect the goods on the U.S side and effectively import them into Canada are there any taxes to be paid? I am assuming that if there are, this is still cheaper than buying in Canada?
Thanks
pentaxuser
Mirko (Adox),
I think one of the biggest challenges is distribution. There was a scare a while back with distribution of Ilford films in North America. We need to worry about such things as import duties. Where is the best place to purchase Adox products? Or is it possible to deal directly with Adox so that there are fewer markups before the film hits consumers? I find it's not so easy to locate your films. Same issue with foma. If I buy from B&H anything other than Kodak I am paying import duties for both the united States and Canada - that is if they carry the film.
How much of a film camera resurgence would it take for there to be a MAJOR drop in film (and paper) prices? I know that it would happen because of supply and demand, but how much of a renewed interest will manifest I do not know. (Whether such a resurgence is likely is another question, another thought.)
Already, color paper prices are in line with prices of yesteryear, if one adjusts for constant dollars. However film, especially B&W, is still very high.
There will be those of you who say this question is balderdash, irrelevant, inane, insane, or worse; but there are those reading this who feel that bringing up this fact to ponder is highly appropriate. - David Lyga
For the average film shooter, the cost of a roll of film is not the expensive part.
He he he David...this forum is NOT the 'geek forum' which knows ONLY about computers and digital!!! - David Lyga
I very much doubt that the cost of film and paper will go down by any significant amount. You might see a slight decrease, but the market would have to experience a pretty dramatic volume increase in order to have a big impact.
Let’s not forget, the vast majority of film shooters do not develop and print/scan their own film, so the cost of a roll of film is only a small part of the total cost to shoot that roll of film and get your pictures back. Spend ~$5 plus tax and shipping to get the roll, shoot it, spend ~$5 to put it in a padded mailer and mail it to a lab, who will charge anywhere from $5 to $30 depending on what you asked for, then usually charge you ~$5 to sleeve and ship your film back to you. For the average film shooter, the cost of a roll of film is not the expensive part.
trendland, if you had to, only YOU could come up with the SINGLE, DEFINITIVE emoji to represent David Lyga. I wonder if you had to do this, what emoji would you choose? (NOTE: I do NOT mind insults!!!!)He he he David...?
with regards
PS : For the speculative case D.T. would post here - I would not blame him!
PPS : But I guess he have no idea how to load a camera! But who knows - perhaps it would help
if he has a darkroom!
Ahh!, but for the darkroom enthusiast, it IS the expensive part, especially if you use diluted Dektol (1 + 9 or more) for film development. After all, this forum is NOT the 'geek forum' which knows ONLY about computers and digital!!! - David Lyga
trendland, if you had to, only YOU could come up with the SINGLE, DEFINITIVE emoji to represent David Lyga. I wonder if you had to do this, what emoji would you choose? (NOTE: I do NOT mind insults!!!!)
And, by the way, the decade representing the 70s is spelled that way, NOT 70th!!!!!
From my point it isn't so much a question of expensive or inexpensive!No argument from me there, however the darkroom enthusiast is a pretty small subset who is actually shooting film.
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