Film in my camera won't move

[Danny33]

Hello,

the film in my camera won't move. Please, does anyone know what could be the problem or how to fix this. I'm using Canon FTb.

 

[Don_ih]

You need to be more descriptive.

 

[faberryman]

Sounds to me like the film won't advance and the camera needs to be serviced. I don't know who is the go to guy for Canon film camera repairs.

 

[xkaes]

Is there film in the camera?

If not, can you open the back? If there is, try to open it in the dark and rewind the film into the cassette, leaving the end sticking out.

Now does it work?

 

[Danny33]

You need to be more descriptive.

The spindle won't roll the film. It can rotate just fine but I don't know why it won't take the film.

 

[Danny33]

Sounds to me like the film won't advance and the camera needs to be serviced. I don't know who is the go to guy for Canon film camera repairs.

Exactly, it won't advance. I guess it does need to be serviced.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I hear this daily from my students, and nine times out of ten it's because they are at the end of the roll... Does it work when no film is loaded?

 

[Danny33]

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Is there film in the camera?

If not, can you open the back? If there is, try to open it in the dark and rewind the film into the cassette, leaving the end sticking out.

Now does it work?

It's not the film. The spindle for some reason, couldn't grip the film. I realized something's wrong because the wind lever wasn't rotating when I fired the shutter

 

[Danny33]

I hear this daily from my students, and nine times out of ten it's because they are at the end of the roll... Does it work when no film is loaded?

Everything seems to be working just fine but for some reason the spindle won't grip the film.

 

[Don_ih]

Maybe it's stuck in reverse. Does that camera have a button on the bottom? If so, see if it's stuck depressed. That button sets the sprocket to freewheel.

 

[madNbad]

Are there rubber pads on the spindle to grip the film?

 

[Ian C]

First, be certain that the film is not disconnected from the take-up spool. This is a common operator error.

In order to determine the problem, you’ll have to remove the film. You should be able to do that in total darkness so that the film isn’t spoiled in the process. Once removed from the camera, use your fingers to rewind the film into the cartridge until 60-70 mm is left outside. Then you can safely work in room light.

Now try to stroke the wind lever and determine whether or not the take-up spool rotates against the resistance of gripping it with the finger of your right hand while operating the wind lever with your left hand. If it works properly (drives the spool positively), then the problem is likely due to poor film loading technique.

If the spool fails to drive positively under resistance, then the problem is with the one-way clutch mechanism and requires service by an experienced repairer.

You can review the proper film-loading technique by reading the manual in the following link:

https://www.cameramanuals.org/canon_pdf/canon_ftb.pdf

 

[gone]

Open the camera and advance the film (w/o film in it) while pressing on the spindle a little w/ a finger. You want to see if it's still rotating w/ pressure like it does when it grabs the film. Doesn't your camera have a Quick Load feature? You "should" be able to just lay the film across the rails and it should grab it when the back's closed. If in doubt, look at the online manual.

 

[xkaes]

Is the problem appears to be getting the film into the camera as opposed to the film being stuck or camera not working -- but who knows?

 

[Danny33]

Are there rubber pads on the spindle to grip the film?

I'm not sure what do you mean. Take a look at the pic. I think everything's there. I've watched several videos on Youtube, I couldn't find anything wrong with it.

 

[Danny33]

I'm not sure what do you mean. Take a look at the pic. I think everything's there. I've watched several videos on Youtube, I couldn't find anything wrong with it.

Are there rubber pads on the spindle to grip the film?

Sorry man, I don't think you get the pic . Anyway yes I think the rubber pad's there

 

[madNbad]

Recently, an old thread about some Canon Quick Load problems pointed to the rubber pads on the spindle that grab the leader while the rest of the mechanism holds the film in place. Since these are now fifty year old cameras, sometimes the pad are missing. I look around a see if I can find an image for you.

 

[madNbad]

Here’s the thread:


https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/canon-ftb-quick-load-issue.122587/

 

[Huss]

I'm not sure what do you mean. Take a look at the pic. I think everything's there. I've watched several videos on Youtube, I couldn't find anything wrong with it.

take a look at what pic?

 

[Danny33]

First, be certain that the film is not disconnected from the take-up spool. This is a common operator error.

In order to determine the problem, you’ll have to remove the film. You should be able to do that in total darkness so that the film isn’t spoiled in the process. Once removed from the camera, use your fingers to rewind the film into the cartridge until 60-70 mm is left outside. Then you can safely work in room light.

Now try to stroke the wind lever and determine whether or not the take-up spool rotates against the resistance of gripping it with the finger of your right hand while operating the wind lever with your left hand. If it works properly (drives the spool positively), then the problem is likely due to poor film loading technique.

If the spool fails to drive positively under resistance, then the problem is with the one-way clutch mechanism and requires service by an experienced repairer.

You can review the proper film-loading technique by reading the manual in the following link:

https://www.cameramanuals.org/canon_pdf/canon_ftb.pdf

Thank you for the link, I've learned a lot from it. As for my camera, I think it need to be repaired

 

[Danny33]

Recently, an old thread about some Canon Quick Load problems pointed to the rubber pads on the spindle that grab the leader while the rest of the mechanism holds the film in place. Since these are now fifty year old cameras, sometimes the pad are missing. I look around a see if I can find an image for you.

Okay I think the rubber pad which is the sprocket right? is the problem. It didn't move when the film is loaded. To the workshop I guess

 

[Don_ih]

take a look at what pic?

I was gonna ask that, too....

 

[AgX]

Okay I think the rubber pad which is the sprocket right? is the problem. It didn't move when the film is loaded. To the workshop I guess

With sprocket we designate the toothed wheel that grips into the perforation holes of the film and at classic cameras fom before the 90's does the actual work of film transporting.

Here a photo of the Canon QL mechanism (at a Canonet though):

https://www.mikeeckman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Canonet1.jpg

 

[Nicklop]

Tell it to pay rent and I'm sure it will move.

 

[Danny33]

Hello gentlemen, I just want to thank all of you for the help. Really appreciate it. It was indeed a sprocket problem.

Sounds to me like the film won't advance and the camera needs to be serviced. I don't know who is the go to guy for Canon film camera repairs.

Is there film in the camera?

If not, can you open the back? If there is, try to open it in the dark and rewind the film into the cassette, leaving the end sticking out.

Now does it work?

I hear this daily from my students, and nine times out of ten it's because they are at the end of the roll... Does it work when no film is loaded?

Maybe it's stuck in reverse. Does that camera have a button on the bottom? If so, see if it's stuck depressed. That button sets the sprocket to freewheel.

Are there rubber pads on the spindle to grip the film?

First, be certain that the film is not disconnected from the take-up spool. This is a common operator error.

In order to determine the problem, you’ll have to remove the film. You should be able to do that in total darkness so that the film isn’t spoiled in the process. Once removed from the camera, use your fingers to rewind the film into the cartridge until 60-70 mm is left outside. Then you can safely work in room light.

Now try to stroke the wind lever and determine whether or not the take-up spool rotates against the resistance of gripping it with the finger of your right hand while operating the wind lever with your left hand. If it works properly (drives the spool positively), then the problem is likely due to poor film loading technique.

If the spool fails to drive positively under resistance, then the problem is with the one-way clutch mechanism and requires service by an experienced repairer.

You can review the proper film-loading technique by reading the manual in the following link:

https://www.cameramanuals.org/canon_pdf/canon_ftb.pdf

Open the camera and advance the film (w/o film in it) while pressing on the spindle a little w/ a finger. You want to see if it's still rotating w/ pressure like it does when it grabs the film. Doesn't your camera have a Quick Load feature? You "should" be able to just lay the film across the rails and it should grab it when the back's closed. If in doubt, look at the online manual.

Is the problem appears to be getting the film into the camera as opposed to the film being stuck or camera not working -- but who knows?

Recently, an old thread about some Canon Quick Load problems pointed to the rubber pads on the spindle that grab the leader while the rest of the mechanism holds the film in place. Since these are now fifty year old cameras, sometimes the pad are missing. I look around a see if I can find an image for you.

With sprocket we designate the toothed wheel that grips into the perforation holes of the film and at classic cameras fom before the 90's does the actual work of film transporting.

Here a photo of the Canon QL mechanism (at a Canonet though):

https://www.mikeeckman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Canonet1.jpg

Tell it to pay rent and I'm sure it will move.