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Adox indicated that they will be making a B&W 126 film BTW, very soon... it's a 100 speed film, I can't recall the exact name but it's one of the recent threads.
Ferrania was the last producer of 126 Instamatic.
Since no one else in the world (meaning planet Earth) can produce 126 Instamatic, I surely hope Ferrania will do it !
Here is what I have from them
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Ok, now the question is: what kind of film?
We think it is better to start revamping the very last produced emulsions. The first two that we will make are a color negative film derived from Ferrania Solaris FG-100 Plus (only for still photographs) and a professional color reversal film derived from Scotch Chrome 100.
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slide film seems like one of those niches waiting to be occupied by a small player. Fuji prices are already at a level where they might offer quite some room for maneuver to a new entrant that can't rely on economies of scale. Moreover, e6 will target the enthusiast market, and some will probably choose to place their bets on Ferrania and buy their product in order to ensure the long term survival of slide film.
My guess is that 3M E 6 will be late 70s or early 80s emulsion, I doubt that Ferrania updated prior to pulling the plug on production sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, the last C 41 Solar 100 and 200 I used was a newer film developed in the 90s, as I recall the grain was good with a shift towards yellow. I have a few rolls of Solar 100 in the freezer. I need to check out smy slides from the
70s, I shot a fair amount with the old 3 M E 6 sold at K Mart, I dont recall off the top of my head if it was an ASA 64, 100 or 200. The last I looked they have held up over the years, unlike GAF which are all fading. .
My guess is that 3M E 6 will be late 70s or early 80s emulsion, I doubt that Ferrania updated prior to pulling the plug on production sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, the last C 41 Solar 100 and 200 I used was a newer film developed in the 90s, as I recall the grain was good with a shift towards yellow. I have a few rolls of Solar 100 in the freezer. I need to check out smy slides from the
70s, I shot a fair amount with the old 3 M E 6 sold at K Mart, I dont recall off the top of my head if it was an ASA 64, 100 or 200. The last I looked they have held up over the years, unlike GAF which are all fading. .
In the 90's the Scotch branded films from Ferrania were amongst the fastest in the world. Actually then they offered the fasted E-6 push-film ever (EI 3200).
Agreed, however, I will say I do hope somehow that Velvia and Provia survive, I am drawn to their over saturation. I love them for long exposure sky work. If the Ferrania stuff is sort of muted, I might be a little disappointed, or if its very mucky grain, but I think with todays technology even a smaller plant could produce some nice stuff. Though now that I'm in the LF world, I think the most impressive thing is to sell a print with a massive 4x5 sheet, massive not to LF guys it's "small" but to most people, seeing a 4x5 transparency on a light box just blows their mind.
Stone,
You can increase saturation of slide film (this is true of E-6 as well as it was of Kodachrome) with slight underexposure. By "slight" I mean 1/3 to 1/2 stop.If you go beyond 1 stop then it's just plain underexposed (unless the underexposed look is what you're going for).
I'd say you get more latitude and dynamic range with neg film so neg to neg should be better. Positive films usually have more inherent contrast than negative films meaning they retain less image information that can be reproduced and you already loose a lot of information at the copy/printing stage. Neg low contrast to ultra low contrast Neg (print) pos higher contrast to slightly higher contrast (loss of information).
Are you sure this works with scanners though? that might be true of printing it on ilfochrome paper but with scanners, it just means you get a dark image, the scanner can't see through the darker densities...
The Old AnscoChrome - GAF film was based on the AGFA technology, rather then the Ektachrome technology. They had their own processing chemicals. so the Storage life was different.
I do recall a 500ASA version.
Ferrania -3M film was mostly sold in the private label market. It is intriguing that they claim ot have the equipment to make 127, as EFKE seems to have been the ultimate supplier for many of the 127 films sold in the last while. Somewhere I still have some Dynapan spools from my early pre-high school attempts at film developing. (They are unique as the centre is shiny metal, but the metal flanges are black. 127 was also the "superSlide format, but Slide film has not been available in that size for ages.
Perhaps they could earn their way to bootstrap there systems by converting other make film to 127, 126 and 110. {that does fit in with the rumours of a lomography connection to this while plan}
I will not hold my breath of course, but will cross my fingers.
I'll be happy as long as they produce 120. In a world where slide film in the common sheet sizes seems to be on the way out, I have a hard time imagining there's a market for it in the orphan formats---but I'd be glad to be wrong.
-NT
?.. 127 was also the "superSlide format, but Slide film has not been available in that size for ages...
Actually Rollei Crossbird is slide film and has been available in 127 for a couple of years now. It's not being packaged any more due to EFKE's collapse but could be again if the machinery resurfaces.
There is still some in the supply chain if you want it.
Agreed, however, I will say I do hope somehow that Velvia and Provia survive, I am drawn to their over saturation. I love them for long exposure sky work. If the Ferrania stuff is sort of muted, I might be a little disappointed, or if its very mucky grain, but I think with todays technology even a smaller plant could produce some nice stuff. Though now that I'm in the LF world, I think the most impressive thing is to sell a print with a massive 4x5 sheet, massive not to LF guys it's "small" but to most people, seeing a 4x5 transparency on a light box just blows their mind.
as I said in the other thread, it's about offering options not available by larger competitors... sizes not available like 127 for example, also another E-6 option, maybe one that isn't over saturated in red/blues and is still beautiful would be an option. If they are able to also to sell their films in kits for example, you could buy a "home pro pack" that consisted of 5 or 10 rolls of E-6 plus the full chemistry packets to process it at home, that would be a great package deal, especially in the US where you can't buy E-6 kits in small amounts anymore (except the 3 bath crap kits).
Lots of ways to compete in a niche market ... just have to be creative.
Yep, I also use the Tetenal 3-bath kits. They're perfectly fine. I'd use the Fuji 6-bath kit if I didn't have to ship it all across the Atlantic. Price is similar for capacity. I've considered mixing up my own E-6 bleach and fix to head off any "longevity" issues though.
Roger, it's past your bed time.
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