F#@%ing Fakes

[Sirius Glass]

There are filters and programs that can turn your image into a painting but try selling your photograph as an oil painting or water colour. There must be new names coined.

And all these new names will sound like or use words like silver, platinum, gold, hand crafted, darkroom, and traditional.

 

[lxdude]

And color is of course full spectrum polychromatic.

 

[Sirius Glass]

And color is of course full spectrum polychromatic.

Even though it is only a tiny part of the color gamut. But then facts are not a strong point for pushing digi-snapshots. :w00t:

Steve

 

[lxdude]

OK then, polychromatic and leave it at that.

 

[Yamaotoko]

It's also amazing to me that people pay $20-$100+ for rice cookers, because the idea of dumping rice into hot water is too much for them to grasp. Photoshop has become the new rice cooker.

That's the smile I needed today, thanks!

 

[Rob Skeoch]

Hey I don't mind you ripping into people who use Photoshop and try and pawn their work as great art..... but leave the rice cookers out of it.

I love my rice cooker.

-Rob

 

[JBrunner]

Fool. Rice cookers suck. You can't make real rice with a rice cooker.

 

[Ray Rogers]

I love rice cookers too.
One of mine speaks Japanese and does the housework as well!
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They are not all created equal though.
I like the earlier simple ones.
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I found nothing easier than boiling a pot of rice on the stove...
but my old rice cooker never failed to meet me with something nicely moist and warm to eat after a long hard day....

Yes one can go overboard with extraneous details while concelling the truth about the nature of an image. One may not need to be told the "How To" of it all, but I would like to know what I am looking at.

Despite that fact, I have described my own work in unconventional ways before;
I found that even seeing my work in front of them, people would ask me "Is this a picture" ?

What they really were asking was "Is this a photograph or a sketch, a drawing or brush painting of some sort? An Airbrush?"

While I have mixed feelings about how some people react to different ways of describing things,
I agree with rbergeman.

We need to respect our words.

Redrockcoulee...
I get angery when I see people selling those mass produced prints as "unique" originals when they are just fancy posters.... one time I went into one of those streets sale traps just to see how forthright the sales ladies were... They know they are misguiding people. Somethings wrong when 2 or 3 really hot girls are out on the street trying to pull people into their "Gallery".

Posters are fine but make no mistake- they are not "Orignal Prints".
You and your wife are so right.

 

[fotch]

Fool. Rice cookers suck. You can't make real rice with a rice cooker.

Is it fake rice then?

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

Fool. Rice cookers suck. You can't make real rice with a rice cooker.

500 million Chinese can't be wrong - if rice cookers are good enough for them, they're good enough for me. Just don't try to tell me you can make platinum prints from a rice cooker.

 

[richard ide]

If your rice cooker sucks; I guess you did not read the instructions.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Fool. Rice cookers suck. You can't make real rice with a rice cooker.

No, rice is grown in rice paddies. No machine can produce rice, although you can buy it in stores. FYI

 

[Ian David]

Fool. Rice cookers suck. You can't make real rice with a rice cooker.

Yes, a "simulated rice" outrage! Someone urgently needs to form an analog rice cooking group where we can vent our feelings on this one.

Ian

 

[michaelbsc]

Fool. Rice cookers suck. You can't make real rice with a rice cooker.

Yes, a "simulated rice" outrage! Someone urgently needs to form an analog rice cooking group where we can vent our feelings on this one.

Ian

I eat only digital rice.

But in a serious vein, can I make prints on rice paper?

 

[Marco B]

Yes, a "simulated rice" outrage! Someone urgently needs to form an analog rice cooking group where we can vent our feelings on this one.

To me, this thread has already long ago turned into a rice pudding and the associated group

Now where is that d****d spoon? :munch:

 

[lxdude]

I eat only digital rice.

But in a serious vein, can I make prints on rice paper?

There is no such thing as digital rice. How do I know? I can see the grain.

 

[Marco B]

There is no such thing as digital rice. How do I know? I can see the grain.

 

[michaelbsc]

I eat only digital rice.

But in a serious vein, can I make prints on rice paper?

There is no such thing as digital rice. How do I know? I can see the grain.

That's just an effect selected from the menu.

 

[lxdude]

Hell, I digitally manipulated rice grains when I was a little kid. I liked the squooshiness.

 

[systemlayers]

I've only been doing photography (basically in any respect) for about a year but joined up to this website in order to explore film more (not just because i like the look but the philosophy, materials and such. And have been shooting film a little bit (still have yet to develop any on my own.. very soon though).

I've read some comments on here in the thread saying that university photography courses seem to teach digital over film. Is this universally true? Does anyone know of any university photography courses that do film justice? I'm looking to enroll myself and would love to learn film processes more.

Where can one find himself the materials and knowledge to know how to do some of these more obscure processes? Am I personally doomed to just try and learn myself?

I don't want to be a faker and I see digital and film as completely different tools (shooting in flight bugs would be impossible even with lasers on a film camera), but lets be honest how many places are there to even learn these processes anymore?

 

[Sirius Glass]

I've only been doing photography (basically in any respect) for about a year but joined up to this website in order to explore film more (not just because i like the look but the philosophy, materials and such. And have been shooting film a little bit (still have yet to develop any on my own.. very soon though).

I've read some comments on here in the thread saying that university photography courses seem to teach digital over film. Is this universally true? Does anyone know of any university photography courses that do film justice? I'm looking to enroll myself and would love to learn film processes more.

Where can one find himself the materials and knowledge to know how to do some of these more obscure processes? Am I personally doomed to just try and learn myself?

I don't want to be a faker and I see digital and film as completely different tools (shooting in flight bugs would be impossible even with lasers on a film camera), but lets be honest how many places are there to even learn these processes anymore?

Hurry up and sign up for a course with Per Volquartz before he stops teaching soon.

You may have a problem signing up for a course taught by Ansel Adam though.

Steve

 

[systemlayers]

Hurry up and sign up for a course with Per Volquartz before he stops teaching soon.

You may have a problem signing up for a course taught by Ansel Adam though.

Steve

That looks awesome thank you for the suggestion. A portfolio required though! Not sure i'd measure up with my limited (MF+35mm and some 4x5 instant) experience though.
Any other suggestions from others would be appreciated.
(please help convert me i'm already an alternative individual just convert me to an alternative film guy).

Does anyone think it's worth it then to go to university for photography? Especially pertaining learning film processes.

 

[Nikanon]

Don't worry about where you can be taught something, worry about where you can learn it. There are countless books in almost every university, or some sort of access to them through inter-library loans, that cover basically any photographic subject. You can learn anything from what a lens is, to the physics and geometry of lens refraction. Don't sit around waiting to rely on someone to teach you, take initiative and learn what you want to learn, as you want to learn it. Usually anyone can access certain university libraries as long as they sign in at the front desk and present ID.

Joshua

 

[lxdude]

Don't worry about where you can be taught something, worry about where you can learn it. There are countless books in almost every university, or some sort of access to them through inter-library loans, that cover basically any photographic subject. You can learn anything from what a lens is, to the physics and geometry of lens refraction. Don't sit around waiting to rely on someone to teach you, take initiative and learn what you want to learn, as you want to learn it.

True that. I have used the local university libraries on many occasions to brush up on stuff regular libraries don't have.

Usually anyone can access certain university libraries as long as they sign in at the front desk and present ID.

Joshua

I walk right in to the libraries at University of California Riverside without even showing ID.

 

[Sirius Glass]

That looks awesome thank you for the suggestion. A portfolio required though! Not sure i'd measure up with my limited (MF+35mm and some 4x5 instant) experience though.
Any other suggestions from others would be appreciated.
(please help convert me i'm already an alternative individual just convert me to an alternative film guy).

Does anyone think it's worth it then to go to university for photography? Especially pertaining learning film processes.

PM or email through APUG OR his website and tell him your experience and I think he will respond positively.

Steve