Exploded view of a Packard shutter?

[Nick Zentena]

Anybody have a picture or diagram of how I should put together my packard? I took it apart to try and fix the flash sync but would like to put it back together now -)

 

[bobfowler]

Anybody have a picture or diagram of how I should put together my packard? I took it apart to try and fix the flash sync but would like to put it back together now -)

It's pretty simple. The 2 main leaves sit on top of the third leaf (the one across the top) and the actuating pin arm is towards the bottom of the shutter. Put the piston in tube and put the pin from the arm into the hole in the piston, then button her up.

 

[Nick Zentena]

Thanks. I'll give it another go later. I need to put it together right so I can tell if the I fixed the flash sync or not-)

 

[bobfowler]

Thanks. I'll give it another go later. I need to put it together right so I can tell if the I fixed the flash sync or not-)

The blade on the right side (looking at it with the cover off) will hit and move the long contact arm so it hits the stationary contact.

2 common problems:

1) the long contact arm is bent and won't hit correctly

and

2) the long contact arm shorts out to the shutter case.

Both are easy to fix.

 

[Gordon Coale]

I put up a post on my blog showing the internals of my Packard shutter and how the leaves worked. I hope it helps.

of packard shutters and barrel lenses

 

[Magpie]

I put up a post on my blog showing the internals of my Packard shutter and how the leaves worked. I hope it helps.

of packard shutters and barrel lenses

Hi Gordon,

Make that 3 people your blog has helped, I am about to start restoration of a Packard shutter on my Kodak 2D, I understand View Camera had an article on them a few years back but have been unable to locate a copy or any info.

My shutter actually has two openings/tubes at the bottom of the camera, both have the remains of rubber tubeing attached. One goes to the piston but not sure what the other one is for, hence my trying to get some more information before I pull anything apart.

Regards

Brendan

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

Make that four. After seeing your blog, I now know how to make the 1/25th work on mine, and what is the proper way to orient it when I put it in the camera I'm designing.

 

[Nick Zentena]

The blade on the right side (looking at it with the cover off) will hit and move the long contact arm so it hits the stationary contact.

2 common problems:

1) the long contact arm is bent and won't hit correctly

and

2) the long contact arm shorts out to the shutter case.

Both are easy to fix.

I think with mine the internal switch was stuck some how. When I opened it the thing needed a fair bit of force to move. Way more force then the shutter itself could apply. I worked it a few times and it's moving better. When I get around to it hopefully that will be it for the inside. Then I can solder the wires back on.

 

[Nick Zentena]

I put up a post on my blog showing the internals of my Packard shutter and how the leaves worked. I hope it helps.

of packard shutters and barrel lenses

Thanks I'll take a look.

 

[bobfowler]

Hi Gordon,

Make that 3 people your blog has helped, I am about to start restoration of a Packard shutter on my Kodak 2D, I understand View Camera had an article on them a few years back but have been unable to locate a copy or any info.

My shutter actually has two openings/tubes at the bottom of the camera, both have the remains of rubber tubeing attached. One goes to the piston but not sure what the other one is for, hence my trying to get some more information before I pull anything apart.

Regards

Brendan

Brendan,

Check your Packard, it might have two pistons. The current production models, the #5 and #6, have one piston, but there was a model made with 2 pistons - the #8 (long discontinued). The arrangement of the #8 was that the piston on the left (as seen from the piston side of the shutter) would actuate the shutter the same as a #5 (or a #6 without the pin) - squeeze open, release closed. The piston on the right would actuate the shutter as a #6 with the pin in place, squeeze and get the 1/whatever shutter speed.

Since the move from New Jersey to California, the Packard Shuter Company has been clearing out old inventory via ebay - including some hard to find #8 shutters. I just bought a brand new (though probably 30 years old) 3 1/4" opening #8 with sync, something I'd NEVER have found through "normal" channels.

 

[Dave Wooten]

Gordan,

That is a very interesting web site, thanks

Dave in Vegas

 

[Dave Wooten]

Gordon,

That is a very interesting web site, thanks

Dave in Vegas

 

[Dave Parker]

Brendan,

Check your Packard, it might have two pistons. The current production models, the #5 and #6, have one piston, but there was a model made with 2 pistons - the #8 (long discontinued). The arrangement of the #8 was that the piston on the left (as seen from the piston side of the shutter) would actuate the shutter the same as a #5 (or a #6 without the pin) - squeeze open, release closed. The piston on the right would actuate the shutter as a #6 with the pin in place, squeeze and get the 1/whatever shutter speed.

Since the move from New Jersey to California, the Packard Shuter Company has been clearing out old inventory via ebay - including some hard to find #8 shutters. I just bought a brand new (though probably 30 years old) 3 1/4" opening #8 with sync, something I'd NEVER have found through "normal" channels.

Bob,

I have an old Packard here that is approx. 6 inches square with two pistons and a 3.25 in opening that I got on an old kodak 2d full plate, would this be a #8?

I am just curious based on your description of the one you have, it sounds like the same shutter.

Dave

 

[bobfowler]

Bob,

I have an old Packard here that is approx. 6 inches square with two pistons and a 3.25 in opening that I got on an old kodak 2d full plate, would this be a #8?

I am just curious based on your description of the one you have, it sounds like the same shutter.

Dave

If it has 2 pistons, it's a #8. It's too bad they don't make them anymore. As of last night, they still had a HUGE #8 on ebay (5" opening) with a BIN price of about $190.00. I was real tempted, but I'd never use it...

 

[Magpie]

Bob,

I have an old Packard here that is approx. 6 inches square with two pistons and a 3.25 in opening that I got on an old kodak 2d full plate, would this be a #8?

I am just curious based on your description of the one you have, it sounds like the same shutter.

Dave

Hi Dave & Bob,

After measuring, I have a #8, took it off and after a bit of cleaning it seems to work OK, will find some tubing and bulbs in the next day or so and see if it works with air pressure!

Is there a web site that anyone knows of with directions as to how to operate the Kodak 2d?

Mine is all closed up and I am blowed if I can work out how to open it! Don't want to force anything and have just spent an hour pushing and pulling any levers and knobs that I can find without success.

HELP :confused:

Brendan

 

[bobfowler]

Hi Dave & Bob,

After measuring, I have a #8, took it off and after a bit of cleaning it seems to work OK, will find some tubing and bulbs in the next day or so and see if it works with air pressure!

Is there a web site that anyone knows of with directions as to how to operate the Kodak 2d?

Mine is all closed up and I am blowed if I can work out how to open it! Don't want to force anything and have just spent an hour pushing and pulling any levers and knobs that I can find without success.

HELP :confused:

Brendan

Hi Brendan,

The knobs on the left (as seen from the back) are the locks, the ones on the right move the standards. On my Eastman #2 (the version just previous to the 2D) the locks tend to tighten as I move the standards, so I kinda have to keep loosening them as I go.

BTW - on the Packard, don't use oil in the pistons. If you keep them clean and dry, they should work just fine.

 

[MenacingTourist]

I just got off the phone with Reno at PackardShutter.com and I got the last #8 sync with a 2.75 dia. Now I have something to use on my Magic Lantern lens!

They were very nice on the phone and are shipping the item the same day.