Eugene Atget Appreciation

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With the amount of fast food grease most Americans eat every years, the end result is either going to be spontaneous combustion or never decaying due to all the additives. I don't know which is worse - driving along the freeway next to some fast food franchises, or smelling the same thing coming out of the tailpipe of a Grease-mobile running on recycled french fry oil.
 

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That's kind of neat; it means that if you don't spontaneously self-combust, you can be pretty sure your carnal remains will be around forever. Egyptians would have been jealous!
 

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Eugene Atget Appreciation​

This thread brings back memories of my early days in photography. It having to do with studies of photographers at that time.
E,Atget struck me exceptionally - first reference to him and his view - I guess I was doing etchings and photography at the same time -- the artistic ambiance of his work stuck me like lighting!
he was a poet of light!!!
 
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Eugene Atget Appreciation​

This thread brings back memories of my early days in photography. It having to do with studies of photographers at that time.
E,Atget struck me exceptionally - first reference to him and his view - I guess I was doing etchings and photography at the same time -- the artistic ambiance of his work stuck me like lighting!
he was a poet of light!!!

"A poet of light" - what a beautiful description.
 

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cliveh,
E.Atget work shows a view of art, in the photos. This which Man Ray saw also and called Atget a surrealist.
 
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But if it wasn't for Berenice Abbott, probably no one would of ever heard of him.
 

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__ "But if it wasn't for Berenice Abbott, probably no one would of ever heard of him."

Well, yes &&& no - E.Atget was known in Paris in his day [1920's] but not to much further.{?} B.Abbott opened him to the art photo-world in the States--NY ....
But he was all ready an enigmatic figure, that is how Berenice Abbott got word of it from Man Ray --- in Paris was already known for his work on the city urban photos.

I remember reading a book or two where he was depicted with a type of wheel barrel to carry his camera and plates... this was printed 1938- the book was about 35 years old when I read it . [1972]

Note : Berenice Abbott was a helper in the studio of ManRay in Paris around 1925-7.
 

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For those who aren't taking this thread lying down, here's the text of @nikos79' post:

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To the degree that Atget was an artist, we must assume that his chief reward came from doing the work. He had the pleasure of solving (provisionally), or at least the pleasure of struggling with, problems more open-ended than the most esoteric chess problem, since the board could never be returned to its previous condition, and since the possible moves were not finite but infinite in number.

That also is to say that our appreciation of Atget is of no concern or value to him; it is of potential value only to us. If that appreciation is to be more than merely sentimental we must ask what remains in the work that we can make use of to improve the quality and range of our own photographs, poems, moral imaginations, or lives.

The answer must be in the pictures, not in words that attempt to describe the pictures; but without trying to describe them we might risk trying to name some of the qualities that reside in them.

The pictures are never quite what we would have expected. They are never quite perfectly resolved in their sentiment - contradictions are not edited out.

They are disinterested free of special pleading. They are brave—in the sense that (we feel sure) nothing is made to look either better or worse than it looked to the Photographer. They are dead-on accurate—in the sense that they allow us to know that these scenes will never again look as they look in the pictures. They are as clea[r?] as good water, as plain and as nourishing as good bread.
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As I've said earlier, Atget's "art" is his sensibility, which comes through loud and clear. It moves me greatly, which I consider to be the aesthetic experience.
 

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For those who aren't taking this thread lying down, here's the text of @nikos79' post:

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To the degree that Atget was an artist, we must assume that his chief reward came from doing the work. He had the pleasure of solving (provisionally), or at least the pleasure of struggling with, problems more open-ended than the most esoteric chess problem, since the board could never be returned to its previous condition, and since the possible moves were not finite but infinite in number.

That also is to say that our appreciation of Atget is of no concern or value to him; it is of potential value only to us. If that appreciation is to be more than merely sentimental we must ask what remains in the work that we can make use of to improve the quality and range of our own photographs, poems, moral imaginations, or lives.

The answer must be in the pictures, not in words that attempt to describe the pictures; but without trying to describe them we might risk trying to name some of the qualities that reside in them.

The pictures are never quite what we would have expected. They are never quite perfectly resolved in their sentiment - contradictions are not edited out.

They are disinterested free of special pleading. They are brave—in the sense that (we feel sure) nothing is made to look either better or worse than it looked to the Photographer. They are dead-on accurate—in the sense that they allow us to know that these scenes will never again look as they look in the pictures. They are as clea[r?] as good water, as plain and as nourishing as good bread.
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Thanks :smile:
 

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For those who aren't taking this thread lying down, here's the text of @nikos79' post:

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To the degree that Atget was an artist, we must assume that his chief reward came from doing the work. He had the pleasure of solving (provisionally), or at least the pleasure of struggling with, problems more open-ended than the most esoteric chess problem, since the board could never be returned to its previous condition, and since the possible moves were not finite but infinite in number.

That also is to say that our appreciation of Atget is of no concern or value to him; it is of potential value only to us. If that appreciation is to be more than merely sentimental we must ask what remains in the work that we can make use of to improve the quality and range of our own photographs, poems, moral imaginations, or lives.

The answer must be in the pictures, not in words that attempt to describe the pictures; but without trying to describe them we might risk trying to name some of the qualities that reside in them.

The pictures are never quite what we would have expected. They are never quite perfectly resolved in their sentiment - contradictions are not edited out.

They are disinterested free of special pleading. They are brave—in the sense that (we feel sure) nothing is made to look either better or worse than it looked to the Photographer. They are dead-on accurate—in the sense that they allow us to know that these scenes will never again look as they look in the pictures. They are as clea[r?] as good water, as plain and as nourishing as good bread.
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Thanks - I used my moderator powers to turn the text into something readable by people who aren't used to using 6x4.5 cameras with a WLF for vertical compositions :smile:
 
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I don't think Atget would have been a fan of photoshop.
 

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He would have been too busy arguing that glass plates are really superior to film.

Or film is superior to digital (assuming we're bumping up his anachronistic character).

Everyone knows glass plates are superior to film....

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