Epsoncan on Linux is not nice, alternates?

[PhilBurton]

It's obvious that the GIMP interface is driven by function, rather than UI usability, and it's been like that for a very long time.

UI design and testing is a separate discipline from classic software development. Your typical developer has probably not had any UI training, and is not usually as the intended user of the software he/she is developing. In my experience (in software product management), a UI designed by software developers ranges from so-so to disastrous. In one UI test of software where the UI was developed by a software developer, one of the test subjects started to cry. We got that on videotape to show management.

 

[lecarp]

Happy am I, for having dropped not into this abyss.

 

[bfilm]

Happy am I, for having dropped not into this abyss.

There are a lot of interesting things in the deep.

 

[koraks]

These do make sense to me in GIMP, though. In the View menu, you find the Color Management options about whether the view is being color managed and whether to enable or disable soft-proofing. In the Image menu, you find the Color Management options specific to the current image and can assign or convert the color profile. In the Colors menu, you find the options for color adjustment of the image like levels and curves.

This could just be that I am used to it, but the layout makes sense to me.

It's one of those things that makes perfect sense once you've taken the time to understand the logic behind the decisions.
It's something you wouldn't have spend a thought on, and wouldn't have searched for a couple of times, if it all had been in a single 'Color' menu.

Mind you, I can see the sense in the GIMP-way, but it's a good example of engineers' logic as opposed to artists' logic. What I have always admired about Adobe is that they put the (non-technically oriented) user first, and technology second. I think your comment illustrates how it's such a difficult pitfall to avoid if you're at least somewhat technically inclined yourself. After all, it's perfectly sensible this way, isn't it? Sure - as long as you share the same sort of core logic with engineers!

 

[GLS]

What is wrong with the GIMP user interface?

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

I think he has also been able to scan his film fine directly on the glass, but the Epson Scan 2 software didn't have all of the options he expected, and he is wondering if it is simply how the software is on Linux or if using the film holder somehow would enable more options in the software.

In Jay's #32 post he indicated he was having problems without the holder. I was confirming that I scanned OK without them on my V600.
(Jay: ...Hmm... now, my test scans were done with old 1940s negatives, straight on glass, without holder. Maybe this is part of my problem, scanner may be not finding markers that a holder provides?)"

 

[koraks]

In Jay's #32 post he indicated he was having problems without the holder. I was confirming that I scanned OK without them on my V600.
(Jay: ...Hmm... now, my test scans were done with old 1940s negatives, straight on glass, without holder. Maybe this is part of my problem, scanner may be not finding markers that a holder provides?)"

Yes, that's a valid experience to share. And from my end I can confirm that the Epson scanner will work fine with negatives straight on the glass, provided the 'film area guide' option is selected when making the scan. Selecting the 'film holder' option will result in a problem with the scanning software not auto-detecting the frames. I think it'll still show the same options, however.

All of the above is in Windows, not Linux. I have not tried Epson scan under Linux and would not be surprised if it's a heavily dressed-down variant of the Windows and Mac versions. I'm actually surprised that Epson has bothered to release a Linux version. That's commendable.

 

[lecarp]

There are a lot of interesting things in the deep.

And many dangers, along with the Bends trying to surface.

 

[grat]

And many dangers, along with the Bends trying to surface.

Only if you rush things.

 

[Eric Rose]

Very little is nice in Linux. I ran an ISP on the linux alpha kernal and struggled on with linux for years trying to delude myself that I could replace MS or Mac. I finally gave up about 18 years ago and I see the same issues still plague it today. Great server software, but really sucky desktop OS IMHO.

 

[koraks]

Let's leave the discussion on which OS is best/sucks the most etc. here, gents. Thanks.

 

[albireo]

Let's leave the discussion on which OS is best/sucks the most etc. here, gents. Thanks.

Or let's move it somewhere else and fight to death!

 

[koraks]

That seems to be the most popular alternative for this topic, indeed!

 

[Eric Rose]

Sorry if I pooped on someone's parade. The title mentions "alternatives", I was discussing alternatives. I will return to under my rock.