Entry Level Printer for DNG's

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What would be cheapest printer that would work in DN printing OK? I would like to try but not keen to buy 500€ printer.
For example would Canon Pixma TS705 be enough?

Would cheaper printers such as : Pixma ix6850 https://www.canon-europe.com/printers/inkjet/pixma/pixma_ix6850/ or Pixma ts705 https://www.canon-europe.com/printers/pixma-ts705/ do any acceptable digital negatives? I think my budget limit would be at Pixma ip8750 https://www.canon-europe.com/printers/inkjet/pixma/pixma_ip8750/specification.html
Any help really appreciated. It's totally impossible to choose printer without any experience on DN printing..


Vedostuu posted these questions in another thread, but didn't receive an answer. I also have the same question.

I'm currently using a home office "small-in-one printer" (Epson Expression 5100), since it's what we have for my husband to work from home. However I noticed last night it doesn't always like the OHP film, and will sometimes print 1/4 of a negative, and then just quit. It also leaves roller marks on the film. I dont think they'll affect print quality, but you can see them.

What is a good entry level printer for DNG's? Something that wont break the bank, can be new/used, and has features that optimize negative prints.
 

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I use an Epson R2880 for digital negs, but I'd think just about any pigment ink-based printer would work fine. As for the pizza wheel marks, I just keep the image area inside of where the wheels pull the media through the printer. As for which printer "won't break the bank", well...I guess that's really a personal thing isn't it?
 

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ive been using an epson expression640 all in one. I think cost $65 from staples, it kind of cheep and crappy, but it worked fine making digital negatives on pictorico and on paper ( that I waxed ), really can't complain but sometimes the head gets clogged if don't use it for a while, I just wasted a bushel of ink unclogging the head. if you have $$ and like epson ( I know some people HATE epson so I had to say that ). a refurb. 3880 doesn't cost too much if you plan on using it, and this is going to be your thing, its not entry level, and a refurb doesn't cost a fortune like they used to cost new.i know a bunch of people who have one and they love it...
 
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I use an Epson R2880 for digital negs, but I'd think just about any pigment ink-based printer would work fine. As for the pizza wheel marks, I just keep the image area inside of where the wheels pull the media through the printer. As for which printer "won't break the bank", well...I guess that's really a personal thing isn't it?


There's not keeping the image inside the wheel marks. This all-in-one has like 8 wheels all evenly spaced an inch apart.
 
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ive been using an epson expression640 all in one. I think cost $65 from staples, it kind of cheep and crappy, but it worked fine making digital negatives on pictorico and on paper ( that I waxed ), really can't complain but sometimes the head gets clogged if don't use it for a while, I just wasted a bushel of ink unclogging the head. if you have $$ and like epson ( I know some people HATE epson so I had to say that ). a refurb. 3880 doesn't cost too much if you plan on using it, and this is going to be your thing, its not entry level, and a refurb doesn't cost a fortune like they used to cost new.i know a bunch of people who have one and they love it...

Thanks for the suggestion! I'm not dedicated to any printer/scanner brand, but Epson always seems to have the market cornered in my price range.
 

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For many like me, it is a hard question to answer. I started in the digital world so I was already in possession of high-end pigment printer, so I never did have first-hand experience with a cheaper, lower-end printer. But that is not to say they won't work as digital negatives precede the advent of pigment printers. So many early adopters cut their teeth with dye-based printers like the Epson 1280. In general dye-based printers have lower UV opacity than the pigment printer, the latter also being more expensive. The UV opacity affects the Dmin of the print. Different processes require different levels of UV opacity in order to get cleanest highlights without staining. So the choice of printer is governed from the technical perspective of what processes you are going to do, apart from the purely economical one. The traditional or classic cyanotype is probably one of the least demanding of the processes in terms of UV opacity (particularly processed with plain water) so if that is the only thing you are going to do, at least in the beginning, many of the good photo-printers within your budget might just work fine. May be someone with direct experience will chime in with exact models.

Regarding the printer you have, chances are that it is not able to properly "see" the media when you are trying to print the transparency. Try using a plain paper as a carrier sheet underneath the transparency and see if that works. The roller marks are probably just rubber rollers transferring some of the accumulated ink on to the sheet. Try cleaning them with some sort of alcohol-based cleaner. I doubt this printer has the "pizza wheels" like some of the high-end Epson printers. If they are "pizza wheels" like Alan said, the solution if at all would be complicated. If you can show a picture, we would get a better idea.

:Niranjan.
 
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I use a cheap HP all-in-one, and before that a cheap Canon. My solution is to print two copies of the neg, carefully line them up, and tape the corners with cellophane tape.
 
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