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Solomab

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Hi,

This is embarrassing but I just mixed some cinestill developer together in this order: A, C, B. Did I totally screw it up?
 

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Everyone, except me, makes a mistake at sometime. Move on. Wait until you put film in fixer before developing. You are in good company.
 

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Hi,

This is embarrassing but I just mixed some cinestill developer together in this order: A, C, B. Did I totally screw it up?
Does it look weird? As long as you have it shoot a 12 exposure strip or a test roll and try it.
I once screwed up the order of a 6 bath E6 process. It was after the color developer. I dumped in the wrong solution, panicked poured it back out, poured in the right stuff. It came out ok. Surprised the crap out of me. I don't usually screw up processing. It's everyday life that is a challenge for me.
 

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If everything dissolved, it is OK. Often, using the wrong order, ingredients will not mix properly and form either crystals in the solution that is there, or an oil floating on the top.

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Welcome to the community. Trust Photo Engineer's views for chemistry stuff - He had a long career doing that stuff professionally, and has been a wonderful asset in the film community.

For added clarity, it might be worth noting which specific developer you were mixing up.


This thread has me wondering if any photo chemical kits use an in-order reaction process to create chemicals at time of mixing, or if they're all more or less divided up to avoid early reactions and for ease of mixing.

Ex. Mixing Part A with Part B creates chemical X, which is transformed into Chemical Y after adding Part C sort of thing.


Personally I find that careful preparation helps to avoid mixups like this, and reinforces my confidence in my process. - If I'm mixing chemistry, I'll prep all the components and lay them out in the order I'll need them with the first item nearest me in the line. This gives me time to double check that I have everything I need and in the order it is supposed to go in before I unseal anything.

This means that if I'm reaching over something for my next step, then I'm obviously about to do something foolish and should probably stop and rethink. [My professional background has been in software QA and User Experience, so my typical mindset is that 'if something can go wrong, it probably will, and odds are the user will eventually be as stupid as possible, so give them as few options to be stupid in the first place. And I try not to exempt myself from that pool of users.]

So far it has prevented me from fixing my film before developing it, but I'm going to assume I'll eventually manage that one.
 

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Thanks Luckless. I try to help.

As for your question, OTOMH, all I can think of regarding mixing instructions in current chemistry are neutralization reactions or are related to solubility. These can be critical as they can form insoluble materials or prevent full solubility as in this case, but that is about it.

At one time, many years ago, the E4 process had a finicky pre-hardener that may have caused the formation of a new chemical while mixing, but this is just a vague memory. I would have to look it up to be sure.

PE
 
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Thanks for all your advice! Especially @Photo Engineer . I think I'm going to wait and mix another batch after it arrives in the mail rather than risk my film.
 
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Though... just out of curiosity, maybe I'll keep the badly mixed stuff, run a cheap roll of of film through my camera and see what happens. I'll follow up in a month!
 
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