Emak is great but...

Guillaume Zuili · Dec 15, 2007

But this is the worth packaging I have seen ever !
16x20 package is a nightmare...
Please Emak do something.

Thomas Bertilsson · Dec 15, 2007

Guillaume, are they in those 25piece envelopes? I have used their 11x14 size and it was OK. I've been thinking about getting a paper safe, though.
- Thomas

Jersey Vic · Dec 15, 2007

I think they're recycling the floor boards from Tito's castles along the Adriatic for those boxes...

Ray Heath · Dec 15, 2007

what's an Emak?

Thomas Bertilsson · Dec 15, 2007

Fotokemika Emaks, graded paper from the people that make the Efke films and the Varycon paper.
- Thomas

Guillaume Zuili · Dec 15, 2007

Yeah it's 25, in a soft package. They don't do it in 50.
Ray, that paper is really good, chlorobromure, graded, really nice.

Jersey Vic · Dec 15, 2007

It's all that moisture..the floorboards get really damp and eroded from the salt water air...Not good for boxes

Thomas Bertilsson · Dec 15, 2007

Guillaume, I have sometimes used old Ilford or Agfa boxes for my papers from Fotokemika. Their boxes seem to be very brittle and fall apart. I had good luck with Varycon so far, but agree the envelopes Emaks come in are not great. I'm sure you've got some old boxes lying around....

- Thomas

Jean Noire · Dec 16, 2007

Just off thread slightly, but does anyone know if this if Foma paper?
Reards,
John.

Ole · Dec 16, 2007

Foma paper is made by Foma. Emaks and Varycon are made by Fotokemika, who also make EFKE films.

matti · Dec 17, 2007

The Adox boxes from Fotoimpex i have are fine.
/matti

karavelov · Dec 17, 2007

I am trying to find my way with the new product names on fotoimpex.de and adox.de

Does the new

> ADOX Fine Print® Nuance® Warmtone FB
> Fixed grade neutral-warmtone fibre based paper on 300g support.

the same as the old EMAKS

Does somebody has experience with
> ADOX Fine Print® Polywarmtone FB
> True warmtone emulsion, variable contrast fibre based paper on 280g support.

Thanks in advance

matti · Dec 18, 2007

Nuance should be Emaks and Polywarmtone FB should be Forte PW, according to the information I have. I tested Emaks and Nuance but not Adox Polywarmetone.
/matti

mmcclellan · Dec 18, 2007

karavelov said:
> ADOX Fine Print® Nuance® Warmtone FB
> Fixed grade neutral-warmtone fibre based paper on 300g support.

This sounds exactly like the old "Museum" paper that J&C sold -- is it the same? That was amazing paper, but I thought it was made by Forte. Anyone know for sure? Is this ADOX paper an equivalent paper? Thanks.

karavelov · Dec 18, 2007

> ADOX Fine Print® Nuance® Warmtone FB

Yes, it sound to me like the old loved Fortezo paper. But they state on the site that Polywarmtone, the other one in question here, is not their formula and will not be available in the future. They state nothing like this for Nuance Warmtone though. This makes me think it is in fact Emaks paper.

I think that I have an old PDF of their catalogue. I should compare the sample images. I think they are mostly the same.

Does someone has already worked with both Frotezo and Emaks? How do they compare?

eclarke · Dec 18, 2007

The paper safes are cheap compared to paper and work well. You can find them used on eBay...EC

matti · Dec 18, 2007

No, the Nuance is Emaks. Polywarmtone probably Forte museum weight.

I find Emaks/Nuance to have a nice surface. But it is a bit more difficult to get a good separation in the shadows for me. It doesn't lith as good as Forte.

/matti

karavelov said:
> ADOX Fine Print® Nuance® Warmtone FB

Yes, it sound to me like the old loved Fortezo paper. But they state on the site that Polywarmtone, the other one in question here, is not their formula and will not be available in the future. They state nothing like this for Nuance Warmtone though. This makes me think it is in fact Emaks paper.

I think that I have an old PDF of their catalogue. I should compare the sample images. I think they are mostly the same.

Does someone has already worked with both Frotezo and Emaks? How do they compare?

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