Ektachrome Revival Price Point

[trendland]

post: 2033234, member: 12334"]What I am saying is that whatever the price is depending on Kodak and not so much the retailers. If the retailers want to mark up the price a lot and not selling Kodak can just sell them direct. In today internet commerce it's not difficult to do and it reaches as many potential buyers if not more as having them in retail stores.[/QUOTE]

...yes of cause that is also right Chan
Tran. The pricing is on Kodaks decision first. In the second line the retailers comes. But in different markets it may be
(caused from other structures) also quite
different.
Don't worry about..

with regards

PS : Some markets will not see new Ektachrome. There the retailers are standing in the first line. Ektachrome there is offered to each pricing THEY (the retailers) are deciding. Thinking of some contries wich suffer from boycott.

 

[trendland]

At B&H, FujiChrome Provia 100f is $13.95 a roll. Velvia 50 is currently $11.50 a roll (although that seems lower than its recent pricing - its currently about $20 on Amazon). Kodak is not going to be able to charge $28 a roll in this market.

I live in the mountains of North Carolina and don't know of a brick and mortar retailer within a hundred miles that sells slide film, so I don't know what a reasonable B&M retailer price would be.

28,- Aus. $ was meant Wallendo. But I give you foĺlowing hint (I will make it in the same way) : When Ektachrome is comming - make your decision how many films you possible will need. Then look at the best price [possible B&H will make special offers - as a form of advertising]
but then decide!
Because if you have the idea to wait a bit for lower pricing you may see higher pricings.
I am very sure about. At the end you may find same procedure as we often realized : EKTACHROME IS OFF - and THEN you have to pay $ 28,99 each roll in USD. !
Because nowbody can say how future will come.... and also Kodak could not say if Ektachrome will be avaible to min.
next...xxx . . years.

with regards

PS : It is depending on Kodak's strategy
With overpriced films - it is a real risc.

 

[TenSpeed]

1 kodakcoin per roll

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

You said that a retailer can sell at any price it wants? If Kodak wants to sell the film and the retailer doesn't Kodak can sell them direct. I don't know about Kodak but camera manufacturers do not allow their authorized dealers to sell their cameras at too high a price.

The recommended retail price for a product is only a start. It can be higher or lower than that, as we see with Leica, Canon, Nikon, Sony and Olympus to varying degrees.
My experience over many decades is that retailers have a cavalier attitude to pricing, and this has become more profound in the pricing of film. It is speculation as to just what Kodak will set as a baseline price, but it does have to recoup development costs.

At B&H, FujiChrome Provia 100f is $13.95 a roll. Velvia 50 is currently $11.50 a roll (although that seems lower than its recent pricing - its currently about $20 on Amazon). Kodak is not going to be able to charge $28 a roll in this mark

B&H!?
Look, if we here in Australia bought film from B&H, it would amount to more than twice and a bit more than the pricing you are quoting (Velvia 50 would be aound $28 posted!). And they certainly are not cheap or competitive. We do not have such prices a retail level for Fujichrome. $18 is a starting point for Velvia 50, and $15 for Provia100F -- when and where you can find it at street level retailers -- as mentioned in an earlier post, two retailers now do not stock Fujifilm and others are likely to follow this year.

If people want to desperately use Ektachrome as so often reflected in these threads, they must be prepared and happy to pay whatever is asked, even irrespective of what the competition is offering and charging (and Ektachrome isn't actually going to show up Provia 100F for any particular failings.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

You said that a retailer can sell at any price it wants? If Kodak wants to sell the film and the retailer doesn't Kodak can sell them direct. I don't know about Kodak but camera manufacturers do not allow their authorized dealers to sell their cameras at too high a price.

The recommended retail price for a product is only a start. It can be higher or lower than that, as we see with Leica, Canon, Nikon, Sony and Olympus to varying degrees.
My experience over many decades is that retailers have a cavalier attitude to pricing, and this has become more profound in the pricing of film. It is speculation as to just what Kodak will set as a baseline price, but it does have to recoup development costs.

At B&H, FujiChrome Provia 100f is $13.95 a roll. Velvia 50 is currently $11.50 a roll (although that seems lower than its recent pricing - its currently about $20 on Amazon). Kodak is not going to be able to charge $28 a roll in this mark

B&H!?
Look, if we here in Australia bought film from B&H, it would amount to more than twice and a bit more than the pricing you are quoting (Velvia 50 would be aound $28 posted!). And they certainly are not cheap or competitive. We do not have such prices a retail level for Fujichrome. $18 is a starting point for Velvia 50, and $15 for Provia100F -- when and where you can find it at street level retailers -- as mentioned in an earlier post, two retailers now do not stock Fujifilm and others are likely to follow this year.

If people want to desperately use Ektachrome as so often reflected in these threads, they must be prepared and happy to pay whatever is asked, even irrespective of what the competition is offering and charging (and Ektachrome isn't actually going to show up Provia 100F for any particular failings.

 

[Minoltafan2904]

Not an advertisement but for people looking to get slide film relatvely cheap there is an seller from China on Ebay called "phoenix-young" selling a lot of cheap films with free international shipping, after hours of scouring many places i think it's the cheapest online seller for people outside the US :
Agfa CT Precisa - 10 rolls ( Provia 100F in a Agfa package ) for 92.50 USD = 9.25 USD / roll
Agfa CT Precisa - 5 rolls ( Provia 100F in a Agfa package ) for 49.80 USD = 9.96 USD / roll
Provia 100F 5 pack 135/36 for 65.00 USD = 13 USD / roll
Velvia 100 5 pack 135/36 for 66.80 USD = 13.36 USD / roll
Velvia 50 5 pack 135/36 for 75 USD = 15 USD / roll
Velvia 50 120 5 pack - 48.80 USD = 9.76 USD / roll
Velvia 100 120 5 pack - 52.00 USD = 10.40 USD / roll
Provia 100F 120 5 pack - 50.80 USD = 10.16 USD / roll

 

[trendland]

Not an advertisement but for people looking to get slide film relatvely cheap there is an seller from China on Ebay called "phoenix-young" selling a lot of cheap films with free international shipping, after hours of scouring many places i think it's the cheapest online seller for people outside the US :
Agfa CT Precisa - 10 rolls ( Provia 100F in a Agfa package ) for 92.50 USD = 9.25 USD / roll
Agfa CT Precisa - 5 rolls ( Provia 100F in a Agfa package ) for 49.80 USD = 9.96 USD / roll
Provia 100F 5 pack 135/36 for 65.00 USD = 13 USD / roll
Velvia 100 5 pack 135/36 for 66.80 USD = 13.36 USD / roll
Velvia 50 5 pack 135/36 for 75 USD = 15 USD / roll
Velvia 50 120 5 pack - 48.80 USD = 9.76 USD / roll
Velvia 100 120 5 pack - 52.00 USD = 10.40 USD / roll
Provia 100F 120 5 pack - 50.80 USD = 10.16 USD / roll

By the time - did you notice special offers on Provia from B&H ?
May be this are short runs?
with regards

 

[trendland]

Well I would like to state this is the right time to look foreward to the new Kodak Ektachrome emulsion.
And within the next week we may be angry about the pricing of Ektachrome in 135 or be angry about to wait until the film dealer of our preference is informed about a new Kodak film.
But I would like to state : Nobody has to be angry about the characteristics of the
New film - that is the ONE thing wich is quite clear just today.
with regards

 

[AgX]

Nobody has to be angry about the characteristics of the New film
- that is the ONE thing wich is quite clear just today.

We do not know the characteristics of this new emulsion.

 

[trendland]

We do not know the characteristics of this new emulsion.

My answer if we do not know the characteristics of new Ektachrome is : Yes ....AND....No ....

BECAUSE OF : In historical context EVERY new emulsion of Kodak ( and other manufacturers) did reach an advance in characteristics of most parameters. Perhaps in the very past there were some films wich become more worst after improving the emulsion.
But I can´t remember such kind of issues. And I do remember the introduction of E100G at about 15 years in the past. The advance from this last known improvement was real imense. Kodak spoke about " grainyless" films.
This was a little " overdriven" form of advertising from Kodak marketing - but - "so what " !
Today we should be faire and we should give Kodak a little credit - therefore we might expect that Kodak solve problems with smaler production runs AND is able to higher the quality of the very new Ektachromes.
To me there is no must if a smaler sized coating line results an advance in characteristics of an emulsion. But there might be also no must that the quality is less due to smaler size.
Indeed a real mass production would make it more easy to higher the quality because the costs within a real mass production are more less from testing emulsions and waste a lot of stuff just to reach 2,6 % better parameters. ( in concern of the equivalent of 180 millions 135-36/year from same emulsion ) But I would speculate Kodak design of new Ektachrome AND the production of the new film HAS to show the very best performnce Kodak is able to reach in 2018
And I am quite shure that a comparison of new Kodak Ektachrome with other E6 films would give no reason to be angry of Ektachromes characteristics.
I am VERY sure AgX.......

with regards

PS : Remember the examples Kodak gave with Super8 New Ektachrome. It was a mixed workflow of different medias. But some of the advertisement roll was real new Ektachrome with a first "taste" of very advanced characteristics.

 

[George Mann]

I sure hope Kodak follows thru, slide film is the reason I still shoot film.

I also prefer shooting slides.

Offers distinct differentiation to digital, that negative film basically doesn't.

When was the last time you saw a good optical analog print?

 

[Sirius Glass]

I also prefer shooting slides.



When was the last time you saw a good optical analog print?

Every day on the walls of my place and my girlfriend's place.

 

[LeftCoastKid]

Ditto and I'll happily process my own.

Current E6 price here (The Lab, Vancouver, BC) is $10.50 CDN (call it $8.40 USD, as of today), processing only, unmounted. Very reasonable, to those who "go hybrid"; for the rest of us, bulk slide mounts are not all that expensive. BTW: The aforementioned is dip-and-dunk.

 

[trendland]

Current E6 price here (The Lab, Vancouver, BC) is $10.50 CDN (call it $8.40 USD, as of today), processing only, unmounted. Very reasonable, to those who "go hybrid"; for the rest of us, bulk slide mounts are not all that expensive. BTW: The aforementioned is dip-and-dunk.

I later realised the example you gave is a list price of Ektachrome in Vancouver ?

with regards

 

[trendland]

Nevertheless " Sherlock" Fujilove got it. The first price of New Ektachrome is "around" USD 13,- AND this is a very cheap offer. So Kodak has made a good job not to let us pay more bucks than to Fuji E6.


with regards

 

[trendland]

Last update :
Pricing seams to go in directiction :
LESS THEN USD 17,- (a single 135-36 roll)
with regards

 

[Rolfe Tessem]

FindLab has it for $11.00/roll. I just ordered 5.

https://thefindlab.ecwid.com/Kodak-Ektachrome-35mm-36exp-E-6-p116142932

Rolfe

 

[Sirius Glass]

E*N*J*O*Y!!!

 

[ME Super]

Freestyle has it listed on their website for $13/roll, with estimated availability Oct. 16th. As of right now, B&H doesn't have it listed, but has in-date Provia 100F for $12.99, so it looks like the Kodak Ektachrome is competitively priced with the Fuji Provia 100F.

Looks like it'll be time to pick up some Ektachrome soon.

 

[RSImages]

B&H and Adorama are in the middle of a holiday week. I did order 3 rolls from FINDlab. Looks like they'll be shipping it the latter part of next week.

 

[Minoltafan2904]

Price looks very reasonable.

 

[Kino]

Just snagged a couple of rolls @ Findlab. Now, which camera to use...

 

[trendland]

FindLab has it for $11.00/roll. I just ordered 5.

https://thefindlab.ecwid.com/Kodak-Ektachrome-35mm-36exp-E-6-p116142932

Rolfe

Well Rolfe - what you stated here looks like a very good deal ! That is around 55,- bucks a 5pack.
(shipping isn't so much I would guess).
Kodak is on the right way (just from my point).
The final price is obviously made by each dealer. If a dealer ordered Kodak Ektachrome in bigger amounds he may get a nice price from Kodak for sure. But there must be a minimum pricing from calculation. So theoreticaly some special dealers have the ability to sell films at a lower pricing
in comparison they payed Kodak. (not much lower of course).
B&H is one of the best known dealers with such procedure. A normal procedure in business :
so called mixed calculation.
In the longer term we should be clear about that such lower pricing will increase.
But for today it is a very good deal you made.
with regards

 

[REAndy]

Not an advertisement but for people looking to get slide film relatvely cheap there is an seller from China on Ebay called "phoenix-young" selling a lot of cheap films with free international shipping, after hours of scouring many places i think it's the cheapest online seller for people outside the US :

Sorry if this is off topic...
I've considered buying film from China on Ebay, however I'm afraid it will arrive fogged. Doesn't containers/packages get x-rayed when entering into the USA from overseas? Or, are my fears false?

 

[trendland]

Sorry if this is off topic...
I've considered buying film from China on Ebay, however I'm afraid it will arrive fogged. Doesn't containers/packages get x-rayed when entering into the USA from overseas? Or, are my fears false?

Same ideas I have had last year before ordering special Fuji Films direct from Japan.
Some (greater dealers) have guarantees that the shipping is save and that films are market as Films not to x-ray.
But reality is most different in cases of trouble. I would state that original Fuji shipping in big amounds to central dealers outside Japan are save (Fuji would handle this with special transports)
The same is with (official) Kodak exports outside the US.
But all kind of shipping outside Kodak/Fuji transportation is a real RISC for sure.
So try and find out.

with regards