...such a definite black line, that even photographers swear I have pencilled the negative
Edward Weston's Day Books, entry dated 3/6/29
"My best work is more analogous to architecture and sculpture than to painting. I made a posterior view, in flat, but very brilliant light, which outlines the figure with such a definite black line, that even photographers swear I have pencilled the negative,--I have used this light before on the dancing nudes."
Also, in the daybooks, Weston mentioned that he never uses artificial light...only natural light.
I believe this outline can also be seen lightly in the Charis nudes in the dunes.
As a side point...I have the Knees print in (at least) two books and noticed that they each are a different crop and contrast. I guess book prints always have to be taken with a grain of salt.
I vaguely remember reading more on this outline effect but know not where.
Hope this helps,
Jim
Thanks for that Gim, or should that be Jim. Now can someone explain that in the form of a lighting diagram?
Eddie didn't need no stinking diagram. I think, put the sun behind your head...move head...take picture. My best guess.
hi clive
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the light is parallel to the lens not an angle down to the subject or from the side at an angle, but straight on ...
if he used a bulb flash on his SLR, he probably removed the flash from the side mount and held it across the top of the camera above the bellows to the subject.
there were papers back then that had graphite like tones ... some of ilya1963's azo prints have that same look to them .. really beautiful stuff.
john
hi clive
>---------- X
the light is parallel to the lens not an angle down to the subject or from the side at an angle, but straight on ...
if he used a bulb flash on his SLR, he probably removed the flash from the side mount and held it across the top of the camera above the bellows to the subject.
there were papers back then that had graphite like tones ... some of ilya1963's azo prints have that same look to them .. really beautiful stuff.
john
So, are you suggesting that he used an SLR and bulb flash ? Seriously ? And it had a bellows ??
So, are you suggesting that he used an SLR and bulb flash ? Seriously ? And it had a bellows ??
You guys crack me up with the "oh there are no good papers available now which are capable of what they had back in the day" stuff.
PLEASE!
hi clive
>---------- X
the light is parallel to the lens not an angle down to the subject or from the side at an angle, but straight on ...
if he used a bulb flash on his SLR, he probably removed the flash from the side mount and held it across the top of the camera above the bellows to the subject.
there were papers back then that had graphite like tones ... some of ilya1963's azo prints have that same look to them .. really beautiful stuff.
john
Surely if you pencil the negative, you produce a white line when printed, not black.
Surely if you pencil the negative, you produce a white line when printed, not black.
he could have abraded the negative, and added graphite to the print
Surely "pencil the negative" was spoken derisively about retouching in general.
But specifically a little pencil right at the edge would lighten an edge and that would enhance edge effects.
weston used a graflex slr ( i think 3x4 ? ) which had a small bellows
usually the flash attached to the side ( at least with super d's i see images
with side mounted flashes ..
like the graflites on the speed graphic ... same orientation .. )
but my guess is he held the flash over the lens plane ..
but who knows, i certainly have no idea what he did or how he did it, its just a guess
Were EW and Mortensen ever seen together? Hmmm...
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