I know I’m sticking my neck out here, risking sounding stupid:
Are you sure you are not talking about RA4 enlarging, where the 50R would be used to single out two of the channels?
In my experience (which I have had good results with) you want to counter the orange with its opposite Cyan.
I’ve had good luck with two filters. A 50C and a much weaker magenta, I forget how much exactly.
Just to ballpark the negative in.
Adding extra red on top of the already reddish mask would seem completely counterintuitive.
You’d end up with a very blue positive.
The sun is yellow because of Rayleigh scattering. In space it’s quite white.
And the accumulative output on a sunny day is white.
This is ultimately about psychophysics and as such more in line with Goethe than Newton.First, it's classified as a G2, which is considered yellow/white in appearance.
Secondly, it's not pure white-- I believe you'll find it has peaks and valleys at different spectral frequencies. Although where I live, the argument could be made this week that it's a solid, dull gray stretching from one horizon to the other.
That's fair. However-- if the light source and the sensor are that closely matched, where would the color shift come into the equation?
For all intents and purposes, I'm using the negative as a highly varied filter for the light source. It will block certain frequencies to one degree or another, but it's not going to alter the frequency of light passing through. If the film were blocking frequencies of light that made it incompatible with a Bayer sensor, then DSLR digitizing shouldn't be possible with ANY light source.
Now see-- not only is that a helpful response, it makes me feel like an idiot. Well done.
I already have a pinhole, may track down a diffraction grating just for fun-- or possibly an inexpensive spectroscope.
So, I didn't fully answer some of your questions. First let me say that this is a long post for clarity, and if you want to use an LED panel for this, don't let me stand in your way. It may be made to work, it's just that the RGB histograms tell you very little about whether it will work.
I mentioned that it is possible to take a spectrum using a diffraction grating or even a CD. We often use cheap diffraction gratings in cardboard spectroscopes to demonstrate the different spectra of everyday light using the sun and a fluorescent lamp (I am an astrophysicist and we do this kind of stuff in classes or to educate the public). There are lots of examples using CDs and a cardboard box or tube to provide the entrance slit, eg google "diy spectroscope" or look at https://scienceworksmuseum.org/diy-spectroscope/ A longer tube and narrower slit or pinhole provide a higher resolution but dimmer spectrum.
I like to try out these ideas to make sure they actually illustrate the point. So here are some examples. I made a pinhole by poking a pin into a foil seal from a can of coffee, shined three different flashlights through it holding it at arm's length above a CD, and took a picture of each spectrum with my phone. Click each to enlarge:
The assumptions that LED technology in 2020 is no more advanced than it was in 2000, I expect on the Large Format forum, but was under the impression this forum was a bit more open-minded about technological improvements in the past 20 years.
This is exactly the reason why I think the white one was scanned with a DSLR.It’s very hard to judge anything at that size.
But seeing the speck of dust it seems that infrared spec removal was not employed in the white one...
The story of continuous relentless technical improvement as an absolute natural constant, is something promulgated primarily by marketing and other people with an agenda or product to push.The assumptions that LED technology in 2020 is no more advanced than it was in 2000, I expect on the Large Format forum, but was under the impression this forum was a bit more open-minded about technological improvements in the past 20 years.
So I'm working a project to wring as much resolution out of a negative as is feasible, with as little pain and suffering as possible.
That's interesting. I opened each in Photoshop for a closer look, and the differences between approaches seem to mirror what I'd expect in a film vs digital debate, namely that the Canon is performing better on the darker areas and the Epson is performing better on the hi lights. The Epson has dropped detail in the green leaves and the Canon has blown hi lights in the white petals.So, I have some results.
Yep, I predict when the Canon robot is dialed in it's going to leave the Epson behind.It would be interesting to see the raw file off the Canon, as there's a lot of variance in terms of gamut and exposure behaviour that can creep in at the raw conversion stage & have a huge impact on the quality of the final file.
If you have Lightroom and if you haven't tried it, give Negative Lab Pro a test. You can process 12 images with his trial download (https://www.negativelabpro.com/). I've had amazing success with it, both with DSLR and scanners.Actually, I don't bother with the dust removal as a rule, even when scanning on the Epson-- Instead, I use the repair tools in Affinity, as they give me more control over how the dust is removed.
I do clean the negative a bit more thoroughly, so yes, the white one is the DSLR-- that negative has been sitting on my test bench for a couple days, and even though I keep it covered when I'm not experimenting, obviously dust builds up.
I'm not entirely sure where the pink tinges came from-- they weren't even that obvious until I compared the two side by side.
It seems to me that I'm getting more detail out of the DSLR, but a bit more dynamic range from the Epson. Not necessarily in terms of maximum and minimum (The 90D's sensor is supposed to be good for 10 stops at ISO 100, which I used), but I think the DSLR image has a more compressed range, resulting in less gradation. In a way, that makes sense, because on the Epson I pre-scan, and then set the histogram endpoints for the final scan.
Doing the same with the DSLR is going to take some thought.
If you have Lightroom and if you haven't tried it, give Negative Lab Pro a test. You can process 12 images with his trial download (https://www.negativelabpro.com/). I've had amazing success with it, both with DSLR and scanners.
Question about the overall quality of LED light: I can see how it would be important with color film, but is it equally important for black and white?
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