Drone photography

[Old-N-Feeble]

I am in my fifties.....I flew RC plains a lot in my youth, my brother still flies rockets. All these "sports" have government rules and regs on where you can do these activities. Most clubs contact authorities when an event is supposed to take place. All this time I have never had an issue with these activities.

Stick a camera on something.....the stupid factor goes way up. I was at a music festival a couple years back. I noticed some guy getting really irate with the security. They were preventing him to use his drone. He didn't appreciate it was private property. He didn't appreciate it was a "no cameras event". He obviously didn't contact anyone with his intentions. He certainly didn't notify anyone there that a drone could fall on their head.

To repeat, just because you can afford one does not mean you have the skills to properly use the device and are willing to take responsibility for dealing with the device. How many people take out public liability insurance? With no required competency tests, owning one seems to be the only requirement to use one.

Something people may not know. Radio frequencies have two users....licensed operators and unlicensed operators.

An example of this is the 2.4 ghz band that cordless phones and wifi devices use. All those access points and cordless phones are unlicensed. HAM operators are licenced owners of this band. As a license holder, I can legally prevent any unlicensed user from interfering with my activities on that band. Furthermore, if my activities interfere with consumer wifi....to bad for them. The bad belongs to HAMs.

The problem is these drones can get locked up easily when the control freq (whatever it is) gets overtaken by the licensed user of that band. Drone comes down, out of control of the operator.

How many drone operators know these aspects of their devices? As a HAM radio operator I had to learn these things and take a test. If I were a real pilot, there would be testable competency I would need to complete.

Engineers can do many wonderful things. It may make it easy.....but you can't fix stupid.

Yes, and that Morse code is so important to safely operate that radio. Tests, indeed.

 

[mrred]

As alluded in my previous response, a required license involving some "educational testing" would go a long way to prevent or minimize that problem. privacy issues could easily be dealt with by a loss of license.

 

[mrred]

Yes, and that Morse code is so important to safely operate that radio. Tests, indeed.

No longer required.....for quite some time.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

As alluded in my previous response, a required license involving some "educational testing" would go a long way to prevent or minimize that problem. privacy issues could easily be dealt with by a loss of license.

I guess I can't argue with that. BUT... euthanization, as some mentioned earlier, is going a bit too far, don't ya' think?

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

No longer required.....for quite some time.

C-Q, C-Q, C-Q... is anyone out there?

 

[RobC]

I'm not sure if this should go here or in an equipment section.

Has anyone here tried drone photography? What did you think of it?

Photographing drones is boring!!!

 

[Sirius Glass]

Yes, and that Morse code is so important to safely operate that radio. Tests, indeed.

in 2005 the UN removed the Morse code requirement for amateur licenses. In 2008 the FCC bought the US in line with that by removing the Morse Code requirement for amateur licenses.

I have an Amateur Extra license.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I guess I can't argue with that. BUT... euthanization, as some mentioned earlier, is going a bit too far, don't ya' think?

I think that is about right. We must begin with small steps.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I'm not sure if this should go here or in an equipment section.

Has anyone here tried drone photography? What did you think of it?

That is digital. Bring up the subject in DPUG where it belongs. Besides DPUG needs the business.

 

[alanrockwood]

in 2005 the UN removed the Morse code requirement for amateur licenses. In 2008 the FCC bought the US in line with that by removing the Morse Code requirement for amateur licenses.

I have an Amateur Extra license.

I also have an extra class license, though I am not active.

NA1AN

 

[Sirius Glass]

I only use the 2 meter band when I am offroading with a group from San Diego. It is so much clearer than CB. I did not need more than the Technician license but since I am an electrical engineer among other things it was not a big deal to get the Amateur Extra license and the vanity call sign.

 

[alanrockwood]

I only use the 2 meter band when I am offroading with a group from San Diego. It is so much clearer than CB. I did not need more than the Technician license but since I am an electrical engineer among other things it was not a big deal to get the Amateur Extra license and the vanity call sign.

As you might guess from my name and call sign, my call sign is also a vanity call sign. It is also a palindrome, which I thought was kind of cool.

 

[DREW WILEY]

Drones are a thousand times easier to control in amateur hands. They can hover, they are cheap, and they make damn little noise. They've
already been landed by prankster right smack on tables with Presidents sitting at them. And this AIN'T the 1950's when wars were still mainly conventional, meaning identifiable national armies with home territories. As far as privacy issues, there are already lawsuits by people who have gotten accidentally photographed behind condo windows they imagined were private views. This is a mighty inappropriate week to go around presuming utterly psychopathic people won't switch tactics and deploy common toys to commit mass murder. They've certainly adapted well to modern communication gear. Maybe that's not so up front and personal as strapping a bomb onto a murtyr,
but drones could be way more efficient with way better odds of escape. Then what well always are afraid of here in the West is catastropic
forest fires. These damn toys are going to land out in the brush somewhere. Even if they don't instantly start a fire, the mere presence
of something shiny laying out in the grass during a hot summer can do it.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

I think we should illegalize all ATVs. People can drive those right up to our private country cabins and peep in our windows. Also, those things can crash and start fires with all that gasoline in their tanks. Darned dangerous things, those ATVs... evil... just plain evil.

 

[DREW WILEY]

Here we have what are called ATV official routes. They're graded by degree of difficulty. At the start of the trail at sign might state literally,
Walk route before driving, speed limit 2 miles per DAY, getting off track will be fatal. They mean it. Otherwise, if somebody willfully gets
off route in an official roadless area and gets caught, the custom is to pull the spark plug and have you push the damn thing back to the
road, even if they're 18 miles in. Go look at all the vandalism ATV retards have done just outside of Capitol Reef NP scarring up what were once exquisitely beautiful hills. I have no idea what the custom is in third world banana republics like Texas, which are too dry to grow bananas. I thought you were at least civilized enough to allow shotgunning down drones over private property. Or it that just rumor?

 

[Sirius Glass]

I think we should illegalize all ATVs. People can drive those right up to our private country cabins and peep in our windows. Also, those things can crash and start fires with all that gasoline in their tanks. Darned dangerous things, those ATVs... evil... just plain evil.

I do not like ATVs, but that is because some of them do not stay on trails. If they followed tread lightly [https://www.treadlightly.org/], I would not mind them.

Stay on the trails or stay home!

 

[480sparky]

Bicycles should be outlawed because I've rarely seen riders stop at stop signs.

 

[blansky]

And sex should be outlawed too.

My god there are people screwing who have absolutely no intention of having children.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

No, screwing should be outlawed because people have children they don't want, don't love and don't take proper care of. Maybe if they were constantly interrupted from doing their business by having to shoot down drones all the time we'd have fewer welfare kids running around unsupervised.

 

[DREW WILEY]

Yeah, but how do we keep Texans from proliferating? Maybe time to get that border fence built, north of Texas, of course!

 

[MattKing]

I'm just trying to figure out what "potography" is?

 

[DREW WILEY]

Potography uses a typical planting pot to make an exposure. As you know, these typically have a drainage hole in the bottom, which conveniently functions as a pinhole-style aperture. Then you get a nice circular crop line at the other end where the film goes. An ideal
Christmas present for anyone who wants to graduate from Holga images up to large format.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Title updated.

Let's see if we can keep the topic to analog photography with drones. It's potentially of interest to APUG users, but hasn't come up much in this thread.

 

[ic-racer]

74 posts and I am waiting to see the quadracopter that carries a film camera. Time for the "Ignore Thread" button...

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

Yeah, but how do we keep Texans from proliferating? Maybe time to get that border fence built, north of Texas, of course!

LOL... you'd be doing us a favor.

I'm just trying to figure out what "potography" is?

Oh, that's very specialized botanical photography mostly seen in CA and CO.