Drilling lensboards for an Apo Lanthar 47 150?

[Alexander Grillon]

Bonjour,
What is the copal size of the shutter fitting an Apo Lanthar 47 150?
I am waiting for this lens and I have no idea which lensboard to use.
Thank you
Alx

 

[MichaelBriggs]

The 150 mm f4.5 Apo-Lanthar should be in a size 1 shutter. (I've never heard of a f4.7 version.) Unless it has been remounted, the shutter will be of the Compur brand. Copal 1 and Compur 1 shutters need the same size mounting holes, so a lensboard described as suitable for a Copal 1 shutter will also work for your lens.

 

[Alexander Grillon]

The 150 mm f4.5 Apo-Lanthar should be in a size 1 shutter. (I've never heard of a f4.7 version.) Unless it has been remounted, the shutter will be of the Compur brand. Copal 1 and Compur 1 shutters need the same size mounting holes, so a lensboard described as suitable for a Copal 1 shutter will also work for your lens.

You're right, apologies, it is a f4.7.
And it is in a Compur shutter.
It is here with me now. It is old but the lens is clear...
I hope it worth the money...

 

[Ole]

You're right, apologies, it is a f4.7.

Is it 4.7 or 4.5?

Mine is a 4.5, in a Compur #1 shutter. But there is a slight possibility that there might be a model in a different (smaller) shutter, perhaps a 01? Then that could reduce the maximum aperture to f:4.7...

 

[carsten]

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[Clueless]

I sure hope you know that it was for 6X9 and not 4X5. It is often "presented" as a conventional coverage of 4X5 since it is a 150, but the official literature with its high standards pegs it at 6X9.

 

[Ole]

It almost covers 5x7". The 6x9 cameras have a 105mm.

 

[MichaelBriggs]

And it is in a Compur shutter.
It is here with me now.

Since you now have the shutter, you can check the shutter size. Unscrew the rear lens cell and then unscrew the retaining ring. You will see a projecting shoulder on the retaining ring -- measure the outside diameter of this shoulder. For a size 1 shutter, it will be just over 41 mm diameter, to fit into a 42 mm diameter lensboard hole.

 

[MichaelBriggs]

I sure hope you know that it was for 6X9 and not 4X5. It is often "presented" as a conventional coverage of 4X5 since it is a 150, but the official literature with its high standards pegs it at 6X9.

What official literature specs the 150 Apo-Lanthar as a 6x9 lens?

I have two original product brochures, and both list the format as 9x12 cm (one also gives the inch format 4x5).

The 10.5 cm focal length is for 6.5 x 9 cm.

The Voigtlander brochure "Apo-Lanthar" appears to have a date code of 1958. The Zeiss Ikon / Voigtlander brochure "Professional Lenses" appears to have a date code of 1967.

The first brochure is unique for acknowledging the thorium content: "These glasses contain the rare elements lanthanum and thorium, important in the atomic energy industry, and from them the name APO-LANTHAR is derived." Most manufacturers using lanthanum and thorium preferred to mention ony the former -- see (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Ole]

I've used my 150mm f:4.5 on 5x7" film before I got the 165mm Angulon, and still prefer it - if closer than a few meters it will cover. At or near infinity the definition goes to sh*t in the corners. But until the limit of coverage it is very sharp and very nice!