Does it really represent a different film or just a private label.

[cmacd123]

I got this item on my cell Phone from Emuslive :
https://emulsive.org/articles/news/new-shanghai-gp3-100-in-35mm-format-120-film-updates

Seems whoever is using the Shanghai GP3 name has a 35mm film, which comes in a platic cassette with UN54 on the rebate... BUT they claim it is actually a new version of Shanghai GP3 in a 35mm version.

I used to love 120 GP3, but ended up throwing away a bunch of it because of a backing paper BLACKING PAPER issue.

Me thinks I will wait for reviews, but this does seem to also tie in with the other recent film which was packed with GP3 on the paper seal at the end of the roll.

 

[Paul Howell]

Good question, I was under the impression that no one in China was still coating film, or was coating in such small runs that none was making it out of the country. Have not seen either Shanghai or Lucky in the U.S market in years.

 

[cmacd123]

I did follow the Link, and even Google translate can not deal with many parts of the text that seem to be in images. https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?ut...237&short_name=h.eULNenD&sm=ee1136&app=chrome

(not sure if that link is good, it looks too long - if not it is in the enulsive article)

one picture seems to show a contact print with NO rebate markings and Bell and Howell Perforations. (which actually would be consistent with the modern ORWO company doing some of the finishing stages as ORWO camera film does have B&H perforations for Movie Cameras)

 

[Arcadia4]

Interesting, Shanghai (est 1958) is believed to still coat in China, having moved to a new factory c2016 and scaled up production mainly for Xray films which are in demand in the home market with a big push on improved medical facilities. However GP3 was only ever produced in 120 and sheet form and maybe the GP3 emulsion isn't really suited for 135 and its smaller image size.

OrWo don't have their own coating facility (the original facility being a museum now) and one understands is currently coated by Foma? and before that Forte (at least people have reported receiving OrWo films by mail 'direct' from the Foma factory). So this suggests 135 bulk rolls being imported from Foma to be packaged in China. The UN54 markings suggest that it is probably UN54 (I presume they mean edge markings and that 'paper' is a poor translation for film). If it was a bespoke coating of any scale there would presmably be no reason for it to have UN54 markings.....

 

[AgX]

a 35mm film, which comes in a plastic cassette with UN54 on the rebate...

The text does not say so. But " a ‘UN54’ mark is left on the adhesive paper"
What ever is meant by that. Maybe the adhesive paper to fix the film at the spool,
Though Filmotec themselves never offered type 135 conversions.

However one photo shows B&H perforations and there are not many that employ these perforations.
But this is a hint that this film is no big deal, otherwise the manufacturer would have changed the punches for KS... (which Filmotec can do).

And Filmotec toll-designing and -making a new emulsion would be a big deal

 

[Kodachromeguy]

Hi everyone, this is confusing. Does Orwo no longer coat its own film in any factory? Meaning it is a marketing organization? And is the UN54 film a Foma product or a Shanghai product?

 

[AgX]

Orwo in the meaning of Filmotec never production-coated their films. Though they design and make their emulsions themselves.
UN54 has been a film of them from the start.

 

[cmacd123]

Hi everyone, this is confusing. Does Orwo no longer coat its own film in any factory? Meaning it is a marketing organization? And is the UN54 film a Foma product or a Shanghai product?

Filmotec is supposedly made up of folks who formerly worked in the "finishing" department at the old ORWO plant. the film sold by Filmotec-Orwo is strictly finished as Motion Picture film, with KeyKode style bar codes and other movie specific markings. Several folks have suggested that they proably do not have an in house coating capability as ORWOs coating operation was junked iin the upheaval after the fall of the Berlin wall.

FOMA would be on the list of "Usual Suspects" as the location where the ORWO film is actually coated. Filmotec is likly the place where they convert the ORWO movie film into -well Movie film...

 

[Paul Howell]

So an Orwo emulsion coated by Foma and finished in China?