Does filter quality matter?

RalphLambrecht

Subscriber
Joined
Sep 19, 2003
Messages
14,655
Location
K,Germany
Format
Medium Format

I prefer multicoated filters over non-coated filters but wouldn't turn down a filter just because it's made in Japan. In fact nikon filters, made in Japan, are excellent and my preference for my Nikon lenses.
 

Kodachromeguy

Subscriber
Joined
Nov 3, 2016
Messages
2,055
Location
Olympia, Washington
Format
Multi Format
Same with lenses! Amiright? Never buy used lenses!
Yes, that would be positively horrifying to buy "someone else's old crap with mars, scratches, fungus, messed up screw threads, etc." Photography as we know it would come to a screeching halt. Quelle horreur! Gahd, and that old crap might not be multicoated.
 
Last edited:

DREW WILEY

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2011
Messages
13,949
Format
8x10 Format
As far as Japanese versus German brands go, the Japanese were fully up to speed or even exceeded German optics in certain categories decades ago; so why not filters too? Sounds like just another misinformed prejudice to me. I've used plenty of superb Japanese filters, and plenty of superb German ones too, just like lenses themselves.
 

__Brian

Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2019
Messages
343
Location
US
Format
35mm RF
Yes, that would be positively horrifying to buy "someone else's old crap with mars, scratches, fungus, messed up screw threads, etc." Photography as we know it would come to a screeching halt.
And used cameras! Especially those old, wretched, film cameras.

Just buy new ones, you know- those nice ones to go with your new, multi-coated filters.
I must be the only one here using that old crap
 

Mike Lopez

Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2005
Messages
643
Format
Multi Format
Same with lenses! Amiright? Never buy used lenses!
I know you're being sarcastic, but I've been racking my brain and I can't think of one single piece of equipment currently in my possession that I bought new, other than my contact printing frame. I make portraits almost exclusively these days, and my favorite pictures have all come from equipment that passed through untold numbers of hands before mine.
 

__Brian

Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2019
Messages
343
Location
US
Format
35mm RF
I just cleaned mold and fungus out of a Nikon S4 viewfinder and the 3.5cm F2.5 lens on it. Friend's late Father-in-Law's camera, the Mother-in-Law did not know how to store them. Mold, dirt, grime, fogged viewfinders, fogged elements- I made a low-ball offer. If she wants it back- she's getting a few $100 in free repairs. I have a hard time ignoring the cries of nice equipment. Especially Nikon RF.

The 50mm F1.5 Zeiss Opton Sonnar had a Kenko filter on it. Glass is Perfect on that Sonnar. Filter took the brunt of the horrible storage. The compartment case- mold infested, and "just infested". Dead Flying ants. Just sad.
"
 
Joined
Aug 29, 2017
Messages
9,473
Location
New Jersey formerly NYC
Format
Multi Format
Same with lenses! Amiright? Never buy used lenses!
Well, with large format, you are kinda stuck. Today, I shot with an orange B+W, filter on an old 35-year-old Schneider lens. The filter made the lens look almost new.
 
Joined
Aug 29, 2017
Messages
9,473
Location
New Jersey formerly NYC
Format
Multi Format
Cameras, spouses, everything is old and used nowadays.
 

DREW WILEY

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2011
Messages
13,949
Format
8x10 Format
It sometimes works the other way around. I wanted a 6X9 RF "beater" that I didn't have to worry about pampering, but with perfect optics. Lucked out and got one where the same filter had been left on the whole time, for about twenty years. The filter itself was all scratched and dinged, but the lens behind it, still like new - not even a single smudge or speck of dust.
 

Down Under

Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2006
Messages
1,086
Location
The universe
Format
Multi Format
These days we can get our spouses and ourselves refurbished.

I wish...

Obviously you know something we don't. Please share your information. Much to be gained here.

As for me, my cameras seem to be in better condition than I am. Nowadays I don't seem to click as I did before...
 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
50,369
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
I wish...

Obviously you know something we don't. Please share your information. Much to be gained here.

As for me, my cameras seem to be in better condition than I am. Nowadays I don't seem to click as I did before...

I have had body part replacement and modifications. However, I am tired of piece part replacement of body parts. I want a full body replacement with one recovery and one rehabilitation. I have talked to my doctors and they are all in and want to sign up too, but they are afraid that Medicare and insurance will not cover it.
 

DREW WILEY

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2011
Messages
13,949
Format
8x10 Format
Well, I dug up my ole Birth Certificate to see if the Hospital contract included a lifetime replacement warranty. Haven't heard back.....
 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
50,369
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
Well, I dug up my ole Birth Certificate to see if the Hospital contract included a lifetime replacement warranty. Haven't heard back.....

Does your birth certificate say Nordstroms across the top. If not, you will probably not have a return policy.
 

DREW WILEY

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2011
Messages
13,949
Format
8x10 Format
Nordstroms has lately been the victim of "flash mob" thefts, even in locations previously considered highly safe. I'd hate to have myself carted off during one of those shoplifting sprees. At least the ringleaders were identified and arrested. They had an entire warehouse of stolen good setup high-tech efficiently almost like Amazon, all computerized, and at that point, with about 9 million dollars worth of inventory, if I recall correctly. But since "shoplifting" has stupidly been demoted to a mere ticket misdemeanor in this state, hopefully the prosecutors will be able to get racketeering and organized crime charges to stick instead.
 

benveniste

Subscriber
Joined
Nov 1, 2007
Messages
528
Format
Multi Format

Older uncoated or single coated filters will transmit between 4 and 10% less light than a multicoated filter. It doesn't matter what glass is behind the filter. In addition, multicoated filters are less likely to cause flare than multicoated filters. Beyond that, you are looking more at age related issues. Like many industrial processes, there has been evolutionary improvements in manufacturing optical glass over the last few decades. While the basic optical glass formulations used in filters haven't changed, the product is more consistent. Older used filters may have also seen subject to wear and tear of various forms.

So is upgrading to modern filters worth it? That's between you and your wallet. Personally, when I shoot B&W film, I use Hoya and Bower filters purchased in the 1980's and 1990's, plus some Cokin P series plastic slabs. But if I was shooting professionally, I might well reconsider.
 

DF

Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2012
Messages
583
in my honest opinion, through trial and error, when it comes to filters shooting B&W film, it is best to skip filters altogether - and leave any filtering to be done in the darkroom for the printing phase, with only ONE exception: when shooting ONLY the sky for cloud shots, red filters mostly.
 

Huss

Member
Joined
Feb 11, 2016
Messages
9,058
Location
Hermosa Beach, CA
Format
Multi Format

Yup. Kentmere 400, no filter:

 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
50,369
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format

So please explain exactly how you will get the infrared film to take photographs showing the infrared images without the proper filters such as R23, R25, R29, R72?
 

RalphLambrecht

Subscriber
Joined
Sep 19, 2003
Messages
14,655
Location
K,Germany
Format
Medium Format
I've bought used lenses many times but always trusted sources. I've really been disappointed with these lenses. I rather buy used name-brand than 3rd party new!
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…