Do you suggest this scanner-CIS?

[F80p]

Please go to

http://www.flickr.com/photos/live-the-dream/4346829277/

and see if the scan quality is good. I doubt the colours are right!
I wanted to buy the Canoscan LIDE 700f. Its got 9600DPI! But it is a CIS and not CCD.
Anyways todays CCD scanners use Led lighting which does not make them any better than CIS scanners. This is what i feel. My only requirement is 35mm. Still this scanner can scan till 4800DPI for prints!
So what do you people suggest...should i go ahead and get it?

 

[Worker 11811]

I use a Canoscan 8800F. It is a good piece of equipment if you understand its limitations.

Yes, it can scan 9600 DPI but you will not get true 9600 DPI from 35mm film. If you have a perfect negative and you are lucky enough to get a perfect scan you MIGHT get 4800 DPI worth of real resolution out of it but that is still unlikely. You should expect to get 1200 maximum.

If you buy a flatbed scanner... ANY brand of flatbed scanner... you should not be thinking merely in terms of DIP resolution. Think about color, clarity and other features like speed or ease of use. The main reason I bought a flatbed is because of its versatility. I wanted one scanner that can scan photos, negatives and paper documents. I didn't want to have two or more pieces of equipment on my desk taking up space. I wanted to buy one scanner and use it for the most functions while keeping generally good quality across the board. If I wanted that "razor sharp" quality where I can see every grain on the film I would have bought a dedicated negative scanner.

So, if you are willing to live within the limitations of a flatbed scanner, the Canoscan is as good as any. Many people prefer Epson or Nikon but Canon is still a good product. If you do your homework before you buy and use the scanner conscientiously you should have no trouble with it.

 

[pellicle]

Hi

and see if the scan quality is good.

impossible to tell from what is presented there.

I doubt the colours are right!
I wanted to buy the Canoscan LIDE 700f. Its got 9600DPI! But it is a CIS and not CCD.

and its got LED's not Cold Cathode ... hard light exacerbated dust in my experience.

I personally have not tested it, but I would put it withing ball park of the Epson V700 ... differences will be minor

try reading these

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson V700/page_1.htm

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Scanners/Canon_9950F/page_1.htm

Anyways todays CCD scanners use Led lighting which does not make them any better than CIS scanners. This is what i feel. My only requirement is 35mm. Still this scanner can scan till 4800DPI for prints!
So what do you people suggest...should i go ahead and get it?

4800dpi will not be got, although you may wish it ... there is advantage in setting the scanner in this position however as it saves you from upsizing if you are doing prints which need this size image.

aside from that, I'm doubtful you'll see more real numbers than 2400dpi ... even if you get more pixels

 

[F80p]

If somebody has any reviews about this scanner please tell me.
Assuming even 30% efficiency this scanner can give 2000-3000 DPI resolution which will be great at this price.!!

 

[Worker 11811]

A 1200 or 2400 DPI scan from a flatbed scanner will easily produce a 1000 x 600 pixel final image. You don't need to scan any higher than that. Scanning at higher resolutions is just wasting time and memory.

If the image is for viewing on the internet, scan at 1200 and edit. When you are ready to finalize, scale it down to the size you want.

If you want a "really excellent" image or if you are zooming in on a small part of the negative you can go up to 2400 DPI for editing and scale down to final size when done.

When I first got my scanner I scanned at maximum resolution (9600 DPI) because I wanted to experiment and see what my "new toy" would do but I quickly found out that, 90% of the time, I never need to go above 1200 DPI.

What is important in a flat bed scanner is versatility, reliability, ease of use and color rendition.

Does the scanner do everything you want it to do? Can you scan prints, documents and negatives with ease?

Does the scanner work as expected and does it work without breaking down too frequently?

Is the scanner easy to use? Do you have to install special drivers and fuss with it each time you want to use it or can you just turn it on and make a scan?

When it makes a scan, does it produce an image that looks the way you want it to? Are the colors true to the original media? Can you calibrate it so that it will produce true colors?

These are the questions I think you want to ask yourself when considering a flatbed scanner. If you want that "razor sharp" resolution, you are going to have to look at a dedicated film scanner. As a hobbyist, I think your best "bang for the buck" is in a flatbed.

After you get some experience at scanning and IF you decide this is necessary for the work you want to do, then you can get a film scanner.

PC Magazine is a good place to look for equipment reviews:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2352852,00.asp

But you can Google "Canoscan LIDE 700f" and find a dozen other reviews.

I'd say the Canon is a decent product for the money. Epson or Nikon are other brands you should also consider. Just read the reviews.

 

[pschwart]

My only requirement is 35mm.

Bottom line: An inexpensive flatbed is *not* the ideal choice for scanning 35mm.
It can be OK if you are just scanning for the web or to make small prints. Most inexpensive flatbeds have poor quality film holders, so you would want to upgrade the holders for best results. That said, this scanner can be had for around $110 USD, so the investment is minimal and it's convenient to have a scanner even if you end up not using it for film. I like to use a flatbed to make proof sheets from negative pages, and this requires a scan area of at least 8x10. The specs for this scanner look like it only supports scanning 35mm, and only one strip at a time. If this is true, I'd look for something with more flexibility.

 

[F80p]

I am looking at quality but cant afford real film scanners.
I am inclined on this 700f because it will surely give the highest rez compared to other flatbeds. Colours i found it OK or could not find any fault with it. So i may go with it.
Please do see the photos on flickr and coment on the colours!!!
@worker: Thanks for your reply. I want the highest quality i can extract from a flatbed. So i will go upto 9600DPI. BTW 9600 is its optical rez not interpolated if you thought so.
Thanks again

 

[Worker 11811]

Yes, I have the Canoscan 8800F. It does 9600 DPI non-interpolated. It also has an LED light source. It produces good scans.

However, you should not expect to get true 9,600 DPI out of it when scanning film.

There is a "break-even" point where scanning at a higher resolution will not reveal any more detail. You can scan at higher resolutions than this but you will only produce larger files which take longer to process and eat up more memory and hard drive space. It ends up being work of no consequence.

According to the research we have done here, on this forum, we have determined that the maximum EFFECTIVE resolution that you should expect from a flatbed scanner is somewhere between 1,200 and 2,400 DPI. If you go higher that that you will only end up spinning your wheels in the sand, so to speak.

You CAN scan higher that that but you will not reveal any more detail. There are some reasons to do it. If you are going to make big enlargements you might need more pixels to work with. Scanning at higher resolutions will benefit you there but the cost is, as I said, increased memory usage and less time efficiency.

The best thing to do is to decide what resolution your output needs to be then determine what DPI resolution you need to use. Don't just scan at high resolution because your scanner says you can.

It's all a trade-off. Time versus benefit.

 

[F80p]

Yours is only 4800DPI.(only the horizontal rez is taken into account)

http://www.canon.co.in/p/EN/141-Scanners/261-Flatbed-with-Film/246-CanoScan-8800F/

And it is a white LED and LIDE scanners have three LEDs R,G and B which has slightly different spectrum than one single white LED. So the results will be different.

I agree with the wheels in sand thing. I will have to experiment and find my limit when my scanner arrives.

 

[Worker 11811]

As I mentioned, I chose my scanner for overall versatility, not maximum resolution. I do more than simply scan film with it. I wanted one product that would give me the best combination of features to do the jobs I want to do.

 

[ctscanner]

Prashanthb,

You might want to take a look at www.scandig.com. The people that run the site have reviewed scanning resolution on a variety of scanners, and discuss their method in pretty decent detail. The information might give you a better feel for what you might achieve with a flatbed scanner.

One last piece of information you might consider. Dave Brooks, the Digital Help editor at Shutterbug Magazine is hinting around about the Epson V600 scanner as being pretty decent, and is offering a report in the near future. The folks at www.photo-i.com.uk are already out with one, comparing it with the Epson V700 model. Take a look, it might be worth your time.

George

 

[F80p]

Thank you!