Do you shoot at f 22?

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I have no image issues with f22 on J12 and J3, those are for 35mm, but on rangefinder.
I can’t see big problems with Canon L EF lenses, ether, which goes smaller than f22.
 

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Very rarely with 35mm, usually when testing a lens that has that option. Certainly with large format, particularly 8x10 or larger.

I do have one or two old 6x9 medium format folders with very limited shutter speed selections where f/22 or even f/32 is sometimes necessary in order to get a realistic exposure.

I rarely enlarge past 8x10 and when I do it is almost always with 6x9 or larger film formats.

BTW, I am usually more interested in getting the image I am going for than worry too much about sharpness. If I were really into sharp images I would rarely ever shoot handheld since I suspect that is a bigger killer of sharp photos than diffraction ever was.

EDIT - I know, I know, all of you are rock steady and can take super sharp photos at 1/15s or slower. I can't
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I tried landscape for the first time and shot at the smallest aperture thinking that it would provide the sharpest image possible. Wrong! Shooting at the smallest aperture actually gave me a worst image than when I shot at F5.6 or F8.
 

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Many times, even use f32 if I need it.
As with all the tools I use - and not just in photography, I exercise them to their limits just so I would personally know what can be achieved.
As photographers, we of all people know all about compromises and therefore have to know what the gear can achieve when needed.
what lens do you own that stops down to 32.? very few of mine even hit 22.
 

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what lens do you own that stops down to 32.? very few of mine even hit 22.

Hasselblad:
f/3.5 30mm Fisheye lenses have f/22 openings
f/4.5 SWC lenses have f/22 openings
f/4 50mm lenses have f/22 openings
f/2.8 80mm lenses have f/22 openings
f/3.5 100mm lenses have f/22 openings
f/4 150mm lenses have f/22 and f/32 openings
f/5.6 250mm lenses have f/22, f32 and f/45 openings
f/8 500mm lenses have f/22, f32, f/45 and f/64 openings​
 
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Hasselblad f/4 50mm lens, f/2.8 80mm, f/3.5 100mm CF lenses have f/22 openings just for starters.

When you are doing analog macro photography, you pretty much need f/22 or smaller for most subjects unless using some advanced studio techniques. Otherwise there's simply not enough depth of field.
But that is not 35mm film, is it.?
 

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A good reason to use medium speed film on cameras without super fast focal plane shutters. I tend to stop down 2-3 stops from wide open i.e. f5.6, f8
 

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Do you shoot at f 22?

When shooting 35mm film, I shoot at f/22 with my macro lens when I need the depth-of-field.

When shooting medium format and large format cameras, I may shoot at f/22 or f/32 if I need the depth-of-field.

When shooting pinhole cameras, I may shoot at f/90, f/128, f/180, or f/256.
 

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Post 30 did not specify 35mm film cameras.

I suppose not, but since this was asked in the 35mm Forum. i guess i just assumed that is what was being discussed....... :smile:

My Nikon 20mm to 35mm AF zoom, Nikon 28mm to 200mm AF zoom and Tamron 28mm to 300mm AF zoom lenses all have f/22.
 

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Older Nikon lenses frequently stop at f16, but pretty much every Pentax K lens I own will go to at least f22, and the macro lenses will for to f32.
 
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Nope. Diffraction will happen.
 

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One cannot arbitrarily say that diffraction starts a particular f/stop, it depend on the lens design and the film format.
 
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I shoot 6x7's medium format with a Mamiya RB67. Over the years, I'd calculate the DOF I thought I needed for landscapes usually wanting the horizon to some midpoint or closer. . Then I would close down one more stop for good measure. I never noticed how much sharpness I lost but then I never really thought about diffraction. I seemed to be happy with my shots, but maybe I just didn't notice the loss. What do you think of my procedure of setting aperture? (You can see many on my Flickr page but sharpening scans probably eliminated any tell-tales of what the film actually looks like)
 

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The sweet spot, sharpest focus, is f/8 to f/11 for 35mm, f/11 to f/16 for Medium Format, f/16 to f/22 for 4"x5". So f//22 is still very sharp for Medium Format and reasonably sharp for 35mm. Most lens manufacturers will not put an aperture on a lens if the dispersion is significant.
 

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For 35mm basically never, and only rarely with medium format. The diffraction losses are too significant IMO. I do very little macro work though.
 

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It also depends on how much sharpness the photographer wants for each subject and image presentation.

One can always make parts or all of a composition less sharp, but if the lens is not capable of being sharp, then nothing can make it sharper.
 
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