Nice. Very original.Yes, that pretty much explains it. Right now I am out of town but pulled up these two images as an example of what I’m doing with my own photos/drawings. The photo was shot in Death Valley on 35mm infrared film around 1980. This is a raw, full frame, scan of the negative. The other image is a drawing I did from that, white gel pen on black paper.
An excellent way of working!...
I'm not going to risk missing a workable shot entirely to hem and haw over perfect edges and whether or not it would be better to have the camera a few mm to the left. Compose in the field for the core subject, adjust in post for the final print...
Use your wife. A photographer I know will have her husband to walk into a scene when the light is right, so she can have a figure (often in silhouette or not facing camera) in the right place for her preferred composition.Sounds good. I'll have to check with my wife.
As a side note, Avedon would sometimes add back the 4x5 film rebate in the darkroom if he cropped an image.You can see notch code and writing in margin.
I'm sure my wife wouldn't want me to use a female model. Maybe I can hire your friend's husband?Use your wife. A photographer I know will have her husband to walk into a scene when the light is right, so she can have a figure (often in silhouette or not facing camera) in the right place for her preferred composition.
That poseur.As a side note, Avedon would sometimes add back the 4x5 film rebate in the darkroom if he cropped an image.
And a mediocre craftsman.
or as the baseball saying goes...it's better to be lucky than good.That proves that it's better to be a great artist than a craftsman.
Conformist.
It is beginner amateur talk, always has been. Always adressed in photo-101 classes, rarely beyond.
as an artist, obe should aim for in-canera crop. As a pro, one should not care.
No NO!!! Not a thread on cropping!!!
None of us are perfect. Believe me, I've tried. Cropping makes up for that.
Stubborn folks who cannot see beyond their initial choice for composition in camera won't crop. A second, or even third look at a negative or print can sometimes result in a more impactful image.
When I come to that point and the full image is not good enough, I say to myself, "See better next time." I already have plenty negatives of 'impactful' full-negative images that I have not gotten around to printing yet...I can afford to be picky about adding new ones.Stubborn folks who cannot see beyond their initial choice for composition in camera won't crop. A second, or even third look at a negative or print can sometimes result in a more impactful image.
When I come to that point and the full image is not good enough, I say to myself, "See better next time." I already have plenty negatives of 'impactful' full-negative images that I have not gotten around to printing yet...I can afford to be picky about adding new ones.
I would prefer to be considered patient and resourceful rather than stubborn, but there you have it...
Why not crop the image instead of rejecting it altogether? I do not take disposable images. If I did not see the instant a leaf/bird/car/cloud/airplane/person just nudged into the frame when the shutter opened but everything else is the way I want it, I am going to print the image with that cropped out, not just toss it away.When I come to that point and the full image is not good enough, I say to myself, "See better next time." I already have plenty negatives of 'impactful' full-negative images that I have not gotten around to printing yet...I can afford to be picky about adding new ones.
I would prefer to be considered patient and resourceful rather than stubborn, but there you have it...
Why not crop the image instead of rejecting it altogether? I do not take disposable images. If I did not see the instant a leaf/bird/car/cloud/airplane/person just nudged into the frame when the shutter opened but everything else is the way I want it, I am going to print the image with that cropped out, not just toss it away.
Quite possibly one is waiting for a cloud to line up with another element, or some such thing. By the time the bird/car/airplane has cleared the frame, the cloud is in another position, composition lost. Just as a hypothetical. And if you are concentrating on that cloud, you might not notice the bird approaching. And if you're shooting large format, you certainly can only guess if the bird is on the edge of the frame or not when you trip the shutter. Not cropping is for the weak, who need hard and fast rules to operate.If you are using a TLR or SLR MF camera the view finder is large enough and bright enough to spot the leaf/bird/car/cloud/airplane/person in time before the shutter is fired. And if the shutter caught the leaf/bird/car/cloud/airplane/person then take another photograph.
Quite possibly one is waiting for a cloud to line up with another element, or some such thing. By the time the bird/car/airplane has cleared the frame, the cloud is in another position, composition lost. Just as a hypothetical. And if you are concentrating on that cloud, you might not notice the bird approaching. And if you're shooting large format, you certainly can only guess if the bird is on the edge of the frame or not when you trip the shutter. Not cropping is for the weak, who need hard and fast rules to operate.
Quite possibly one is waiting for a cloud to line up with another element, or some such thing. By the time the bird/car/airplane has cleared the frame, the cloud is in another position, composition lost. Just as a hypothetical. And if you are concentrating on that cloud, you might not notice the bird approaching. And if you're shooting large format, you certainly can only guess if the bird is on the edge of the frame or not when you trip the shutter. Not cropping is for the weak, who need hard and fast rules to operate.
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