Do you crop your photos?

[Sirius Glass]

My god, what have I done???

Not you, Vaughn, Pieter12 made me do it. You can sleep well tonight with a clear conscience.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Anything can be an "artistic decision" from socks and underwear worn while making the photograph to which side of the bed to sleep on or meal devouring. What I attempted to suggest is
too much photographic dogma on this website and in these threads ( what is and is not a "real" camera that makes "real" photographs, people are allowed by edict to crop or not) and not enough photography being made, no matter if they be artistic gems or generic snapshots.
Very strange place, one would expect people here a long time to have media in the gallery, but they dispense the edicts?
Crop or no crop Mr. Vaughn don't stop getting up on whatever side of the bed you get up on, wearing whatever socks you wear and meals you eat, I enjoy your impressive photographs.

I prefer to photograph artistic gems and leave the snapshots for others.

 

[markjwyatt]

What if you say a little prayer before tripping the shutter? To St. Veronica, of course.

Interesting- I did not know that. Related to images.

If you really are having mixed feelings whether cropping is ok or not, a prayer to Thomas may be in order.

For reflective metering try St. John of the Cross (also for night photography). For incident try St. Mary or St. John. (for indecent metering, there is the early life of St. Augustine). For successful development, St Anthony. For Contax/Kiev issues/uses, try Saints Cyril and Methodius.

For ideal Ansel Adams' style landscape photography, there is St. Simeon.

 

[snusmumriken]

That only works if you have the communication set up in the past. Otherwise improve ones technique.

Login and passcode associated with a verified address?

 

[radiant]

I like where this thread has evolved.

 

[WilmaD]

I prefer to photograph artistic gems and leave the snapshots for others.

Whether we think they be artistic gems we do not decide.

 

[Vaughn]

Whether we think they be artistic gems we do not decide.

Of course we do...we decide and take that decision deep within ourselves and celebrate it. That is one of the things we artists do. Others can only decide for themselves if the art is any good.

 

[WilmaD]

Of course we do...we decide and take that decision deep within ourselves and celebrate it. That is one of the things we artists do. Others can only decide for themselves if the art is any good.

Everything is art, even these thoughtless words in this post. Nothing is not art?
If this is right why do some provoke in this thread and cause tension?

 

[Vaughn]

Please, do not consider your words thoughtless. I don't see a logical connection between the two...what do the reactions to the discussions here about photography have to do about what art is?

 

[radiant]

Is WilmaD some blocked users alter ego? Pretty attacking attitude for newcomer..

 

[DonW]

Everything is art, even these thoughtless words in this post. Nothing is not art?
If this is right why do some provoke in this thread and cause tension?

Once you see the forum jokers pontificating it's always time to abandon the thread. Nothing good or intelligent will come from staying. If you take them seriously you will just be drawn into a meaningless, aggravating exchange of nonsense.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Whether we think they be artistic gems we do not decide.

I have always reserved that honor for myself and it has never been successfully challenged. Besides I have only made one mistake in my life, that was when I thought that I might have made a mistake but it turned out that I had been correct all along.

 

[WilmaD]

Once you see the forum jokers pontificating it's always time to abandon the thread. Nothing good or intelligent will come from staying. If you take them seriously you will just be drawn into a meaningless, aggravating exchange of nonsense.

Thank you for your help.

 

[Vaughn]

I am attacking someone?

Thank you for your help.

And welcome to PHOTRIO as one of our new forum jokers pontificating away! Delighted to have you, honestly!

A lot of words...
Here is an old image. Cropped only by the 4x5 negative carrier (16x20 silver gelatin print). I've cropped reality pretty tight already...managed to get a few waves in and a touch of sky, and even a place to rest one's butt awhile down in front.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I am attacking someone?

Thank you for your help.

Joking or light teasing is a sign of welcome.

 

[Mike Lopez]

Sort of like visiting your ex-wife to have a chat.

An apt analogy!

 

[WilmaD]

Is WilmaD some blocked users alter ego? Pretty attacking attitude for newcomer..

Thank you for welcome.

 

[AgX]

Cropping your photo seems to be an old taboo that's left over from the pre-photography art world...

Never heard of such taboo.

This is as if a painter's supplier only offers linen in a certain aspect ratio and the painter then has to wait for subject that to his mind just fits this aspect ratio.

Concerning photography: the taking aspect ratios are practically given, in contrast to a painter's linen. For 35mm film there practically is only one aspect ratio. I will not go further into how these photographic ratios came into existance. Nonetheless a photographer is free, already at taking to imagine a certain aspect ratio and to realise this at the printing stage.

I admit however that at slide projection this is difficult and thus rarely realized. And at cinematography a deviation in projection from the taking aspect ratio is practically inexistent.

 

[snusmumriken]

Thank you for welcome.

Take no notice. They are just boys. Old boys, but still boys.

I'm a relative newcomer myself, but welcome anyway.

 

[Vaughn]

Never heard of such taboo...

Neither have I. Using cropping tools (Ls) on student work is a fun way to show them different ways to approach composition. Students were always encourage to look for what was unneeded in their images as well as what was.

Besides full-frame 2.25" sq, 4x5, 5x7, 8x10 and 11x14 images, I also make in-camera 4x10 and 5.5x14 images using modified darkslides. I also have a modified darkslide to make 11x11 inch images that I have used once or twice, but have not fallen in love with it yet. Format choices and modified darkslides are just cropping tools I use to make the negative.

I also print multiple full-frame negatives together. Image-makers have many tools in their tool chest. Each tool leaves it own mark while in the hand of the artist/craftperson. I choose the ones that best shape my vision.

Doggies...
pt/pd print

 

[Ivo Stunga]

I admit however that at slide projection this is difficult and thus rarely realized.

GEPE 7013 slide mounts with metal mask (now discontinued) can interlock perpendicularly, making a perfect square window. I crop my slides with this quite regularly, but of course they had to be taken out of manufacturing

There were Soviet slide mounts for half-frame slides and I've seen something in-between too, If I recall correctly. EDIT: Probably a plastic 16mm mount or something - really tiny window.

 

[AgX]

Yes, and there were 35mm mounts with special masks. But gone too.
Moreover, these all necessitate a dedicated and precise framing at taking.

For deciding on cropping after taking or for more freedom on aspect ratio and orientation slide copying on a dedicated bellows would be the remedy. Though rarely applied. Today we no longer got the respective duplicating films.

 

[Sirius Glass]

GEPE 7013 slide mounts with metal mask (now discontinued) can interlock perpendicularly, making a perfect square window. I crop my slides with this quite regularly, but of course they had to be taken out of manufacturing

There were Soviet slide mounts for half-frame slides and I've seen something in-between too, If I recall correctly. EDIT: Probably a plastic 16mm mount or something - really tiny window.

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Yes, and there were 35mm mounts with special masks. But gone too.
Moreover, these all necessitate a dedicated and precise framing at taking.

For deciding on cropping after taking or for more freedom on aspect ratio and orientation slide copying on a dedicated bellows would be the remedy. Though rarely applied. Today we no longer got the respective duplicating films.

I shot slides for three decades and I did not like remounting slides in glass [I did not know about those two options] so I learned to crop in the lens rather than go through the pain of remounting slides.

 

[Pieter12]

I bet Berenice Abbott didn't give a shit about not cropping.

Berenice Abbott, Echange Place, NY 1933.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I bet Berenice Abbott didn't give a shit about not cropping.

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Berenice Abbott, Echange Place, NY 1933.

Some photographs need cropping. Unless one had a panorama camera, this one would have been cropped in the darkroom. I doubt that she had FauxTow$hop.