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I plan to purchase an Apple Studio M2 computer. Although my NEC P221W display has been great for photo processing for years, it's time for a larger (27"-32") display. I might add that I do not do my own photo printing; but rather send my images to a lab. I am looking for a display that is compatible with Studio M2 & has excellent color-management properties. Price is always an issue. I would like to keep the upper limit to $1,500.

The array of display options is bewildering. Reviews consistently sing the praises of brands such as Dell, BenQ, Asus & the Apple Studio display. Although it is difficult to avoid personal preferences based upon individual needs, I would truly appreciate your recommendations.

Thank you so much.
 

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I plan to purchase an Apple Studio M2 computer. Although my NEC P221W display has been great for photo processing for years, it's time for a larger (27"-32") display. I might add that I do not do my own photo printing; but rather send my images to a lab. I am looking for a display that is compatible with Studio M2 & has excellent color-management properties. Price is always an issue. I would like to keep the upper limit to $1,500.

The array of display options is bewildering. Reviews consistently sing the praises of brands such as Dell, BenQ, Asus & the Apple Studio display. Although it is difficult to avoid personal preferences based upon individual needs, I would truly appreciate your recommendations.

Thank you so much.

No matter which one you end up buying, get a copy of Color Munki from iStudio for monitor and printer calibration. It's priceless.
 

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I just bought a 24 inch Benq photovue, so far, I like it. I’m currently using it with an Intel Macbook Pro and connected with USB C.
Benq has their own calibration software which supports a number of calibration sensors. I think all of the Photovue monitors are 99% Adobe RGB color gamut.
 
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Ralph, I have an i1DisplayPro colorimeter that I have been using.
 
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I just bought a 24 inch Benq photovue, so far, I like it. I’m currently using it with an Intel Macbook Pro and connected with USB C.
Benq has their own calibration software which supports a number of calibration sensors. I think all of the Photovue monitors are 99% Adobe RGB color gamut.
Bdial: I will look into the BenQ Photovue. Thank you.
 

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I stopped caring about color accuracy long ago. What's the point of it when 99.999% of cases your photos are being viewed on displays you have no control over? At this point my criteria is simple:
  • Pixel density over 100ppi.
  • Completely silent operation. Most displays have coil whine that drives me nuts.
  • 120Hz refresh rate or higher. People staring at 60Hz screens don't know what they're missing.
  • 100% sRGB gamut coverage.
  • 175 degree viewing angle.
 
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I stopped caring about color accuracy long ago. What's the point of it when 99.999% of cases your photos are being viewed on displays you have no control over? At this point my criteria is simple:
  • Pixel density over 100ppi.
  • Completely silent operation. Most displays have coil whine that drives me nuts.
  • 120Hz refresh rate or higher. People staring at 60Hz screens don't know what they're missing.
  • 100% sRGB gamut coverage.
  • 175 degree viewing angle.

I care about color accuracy for printed images.
 

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120Hz refresh rate or higher. People staring at 60Hz screens don't know what they're missing.

This used to be a thing back in CRT times. With LCD's, it really doesn't matter unless you're a gamer and have issues with tearing at lower refresh rates.
Same with coil whine, which could still occur with fluorescent backlights on LCD's, but really, what screens use these anymore apart from the very lowest segment of budget screens?

I don't think that you can presently buy any bad monitors anymore in the mid- to upper segment. They're all nice LED-backlit IPS or OLED screens with a large gamut. The main criterion is resolution, which is a function of screen size, distance you sit from the screen and quality of vision. For a 30" or so screen it's kind of obvious you'd go for 4k or higher.

I care about color accuracy for printed images.

Then I'd wager to say that profiling your printer is going to do more for you than profiling the monitor. Although evidently, it's not an either/or situation; you need both in order to get good consistency/predictability. Fortunately, this is not an issue anymore and given the naturally limited gamut of prints on paper (even with fancy CMYKOGV printers), gamut of the monitor as such is also not really a criterion, since this will virtually always exceed what a print is capable of by a large margin. The only conceivable exception is prints with extremely saturated or weird spot colors (think of fluorescent inks etc.) These are exceedingly rare in photography, of course.

compatible with Studio M2 & has excellent color-management properties
Those are not really issues; as far as I can tell, the Mac Studio series has both Thunderbolt and HDMI, which means that virtually every display on the present market will connect to it. Color management is a function of the operating system and graphics card driver more so than of the monitor; basically, the operating system and application software ensure to send color data to the monitor that's adjusted to the monitor's idiosyncrasies. When profiling a display, what you're essentially doing is measuring these idiosyncrasies of the monitor so that a translation table or algorithm can be constructed that the OS/application will then use to display correct color data. The only requirement for the monitor is to have a reasonably large gamut, but as said above, this isn't really much of an issue anymore in today's display landscape. It was a limitation up to maybe a decade or 15 years ago.

The TL;DR of all this is that you're pretty much free to choose whatever monitor you fancy within your price range and screen diagonal preferences. The odds of bringing something home that won't meet your requirements are virtually zero.

The real quality differences will be in areas not touched so far in this thread, such as evenness of illumination across the entire screen surface. Again, not really an issue with higher end screens and even some minor unevenness tends to be unnoticeable in a real-world usage scenario, but if you're going to look at monitors in a shop etc., this is one of the things you may want to look out for. Color and intensity changes at oblique viewing angles, too, but again, modern IPS and OLED screens offer good performance in this regard. Note that performance is generally worse on oblique vertical angles vs. horizontal angles - which can be relevant if you have a big monitor and you're sitting close to it.

One of the main decisions you'll have to make is a matte or a glossy finish (hey, it's photography after all), which depends on personal preference and specific viewing/lighting conditions in your work area primarily.

Really, the best advice I could give you is to go to a showroom that has a couple of displays set up that meet your requirements and have a good look at them. A real-world viewing impression supersedes any personal preference that strangers will want to burden help you with. Personally, I'd not even think of buying a monitor before having been able to see how it performs in real life.
 
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This used to be a thing back in CRT times. With LCD's, it really doesn't matter unless you're a gamer and have issues with tearing at lower refresh rates.

I can't even move a mouse cursor across the screen without cursing on a 60Hz LCD. This gets particularly annoying with high-DPI screens. And if you ask me to resize or move a window on a 60Hz panel, you'll probably see me throwing it out the window on the spot. I am not a gamer. As I said, this is something that you just can't tolerate once you live with a better alternative for a while.

Also, coil whine is becoming an increasingly more common, even with high-end UltraSharp displays from Dell. I certainly had it with my Asus ProArt display. My guess is that most people don't notice/mind, while cutthroat competition is driving prices (and quality of non-core components) down, so my bet is that cheap power supplies are to blame.
 

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I'll take your word for the 60Hz displays. To be frank, I think the last time I used one was probably over a decade ago. Is it still possible to purchase a display that won't do at least 120Hz at its native resolution?

Coil whine is a hit & miss phenomenon, but across the board is exceedingly more rare than it was 20 years ago. The culprit in virtually all cases is mechanical vibration in the inductors used in switch-mode power supplies. Because almost everybody found this massively annoying, industry has made changes to the production of these inductors, making them less prone to vibrations. It's of course possible to still occasionally run into an SMPS that exhibits coil whine, but you'll have to be rather unlucky to do so. It's NOT more common than it was, very much the opposite. Sounds like you're just unfortunate with a couple of devices. The only device I have at hand here that exhibits significant coil whine is the late 1990s power supply for an Imacon scanner. Both monitors on my desktop, the PC power supply itself, the plethora of SMPS's doing duty in a variety of gizmos - they're all dead silent. They're all of modern manufacture, which helps.
 
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