Digitizing artwork (drawings, prints) - polarizing filter?

Waiting

A
Waiting

  • 0
  • 0
  • 6
Westpier

A
Westpier

  • 0
  • 0
  • 10
Westpier

A
Westpier

  • 0
  • 0
  • 11
Morning Coffee

A
Morning Coffee

  • 3
  • 0
  • 50

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
197,577
Messages
2,761,384
Members
99,406
Latest member
filmtested
Recent bookmarks
0

mohawk

Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2007
Messages
44
Format
Multi Format
I'm in the process of setting up a website to showcase my artwork (drawings, prints, ...) and need to digitize them. Some of the artwork is framed with regular glass in front of them and when I photograph them the glass reflects a portion of the surroundings. From what I've read I need a polarizing filter to cancel out the reflections but i'm not sure what type I would need (circular or linear) and how I should use it. Is there someone who can explain this to me? I'd be glad.
 

koraks

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Nov 29, 2018
Messages
20,935
Location
Europe
Format
Multi Format
what type I would need (circular or linear)

Doesn't matter, but autofocus systems sometimes don't like linear polarizers. The image-wise effect is still the same.

Keep in mind the polarizer will only help if you use (a) polarized light source(s) to light the artwork. With diffuse light, you'll still have reflections depending on how you set up the lighting.

In the repro world, the usual solution is to fit a polarizing filter over each light source and use a polarizer on the taking lens as well. This allows for more control. Setting up the lights is still key, so start experimenting with that.
 

jeffreyg

Subscriber
Joined
Jun 12, 2008
Messages
2,597
Location
florida
Format
Medium Format
If you can set the light source at 45 degrees from the art (one source on one side and one on the other) as with a copy stand you shouldn’t need the polarizing filter
 

wiltw

Subscriber
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
6,364
Location
SF Bay area
Format
Multi Format
If you can set the light source at 45 degrees from the art (one source on one side and one on the other) as with a copy stand you shouldn’t need the polarizing filter

Sometimes textured surfaces will cause reflections of the angled light, so polarizer on lens can help eliminate surface sheen from the texturing.
The filter on the lens would have to be compatible with your camera...most modern cameras require circular polarizer in order to not cause issues with AF or metering.
Filtration for light sources would involve sheets of linear polarizering material.
 
Last edited:

Jim Jones

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 16, 2006
Messages
3,740
Location
Chillicothe MO
Format
Multi Format
Polarizers can help, but setting up camera, subject, and lights with a dark background BEHIND the camera may be more effective in eliminating all reflections from plane glass in front of the subject. A doorway into a dark room works well for this.
 

Pieter12

Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
7,533
Location
Magrathean's computer
Format
Super8
A word of caution: you will need polarized gels over your lights, and they must be oriented the same way, they’re usually marked with an arrow. Plus a circular polarizing filter on your lens that you will adjust to minimize reflections from glass or the medium itself. But polarizing can also alter the color of the image so it is a good idea to make a reference shot of a color chart to be able to make adjustments in post.
 

xkaes

Subscriber
Joined
Mar 25, 2006
Messages
4,520
Location
Colorado
Format
Multi Format
Polarizers can help, but setting up camera, subject, and lights with a dark background BEHIND the camera may be more effective in eliminating all reflections from plane glass in front of the subject. A doorway into a dark room works well for this.

Well said!!! You've got reflections coming from lots of possible angles, and any polarizer (on camera or on flash) will only handle reflections from one angle. If possible, reduce all reflections as much as possible, and if you are lucky, a polarizer might help get rid of what's left.
 
OP
OP

mohawk

Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2007
Messages
44
Format
Multi Format
Thank you all for the tips. I'll try setting up (diffuse) lightsources in 45° angles to the frame first. Might be enough for what I need. If it doesn't work I can still invest in polaroized gels or sheets and filter.

Thanks again!
 

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
51,996
Location
Delta, BC Canada
Format
Medium Format

btaylor

Subscriber
Joined
Dec 28, 2010
Messages
2,223
Location
Los Angeles
Format
Large Format
I needed to digitally copy a bunch of old family photos for my siblings. Some were in frames with glass, and there was every kind of surface finish. For simplicity I put a polarizer on the lens and 2 sheets of polarizing gels on the lamps set up at 45* to the surface. I did work in a darkened room. Once set up I could rip through the photos, no adjustment needed after the initial set up.
 

Pieter12

Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2017
Messages
7,533
Location
Magrathean's computer
Format
Super8
A couple of tips--I used to document paintings for a friend--place a pencil or a chopstick in the center and perpendicular to the art and pointing at the camera. The shadows on either side should be equal in length and density and lined up with each other. Also, make sure the camera is parallel and centered with the art, even if you are using a copy stand. You can correct for distortion in post, but it doesn't hurt to be a close as possible with the original photo.
 
Joined
Aug 29, 2017
Messages
9,283
Location
New Jersey formerly NYC
Format
Multi Format
Fine Art America which displays and sells people's art has a forum where they discuss how to photograph. If you photo artwork is less than a certain size, you might be able to scan it at Staples or another commercial scanner.

My friend Mel Greifinger who's passed away had his paintings with them that he photographed to digitize.

 

cliveh

Subscriber
Joined
Oct 9, 2010
Messages
7,490
Format
35mm RF
Remove the glass.
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom