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too bad you don't have the room or space to make contact prints ...
granted it is ok to skahann but making a print .. there's nothing like it ..
seeing you are shooting 4x5, you could easily make 4x5 contact prints with just a light bulb
you really don't need any space or anything fancy
a piece of glass, and 3 trays ( dollar store tupperware ) ... azo is on ebay all the time, old stuff works just as good
as the 90's vintage ... it will make the whole process complete for you stone ..
ifyou are wondering about washing prints .. just soak them and after a few changes of water they are clean.
you don't need running water for any of the process ..
THEN you can skahhan the print and tweek the levels in PS to match the print and not feel "guilty"
Chris, it's a very nice image, however I really don't like doing that because I always feel like it's somehow cheating, if you're doing it post, I've always been one to shoot things the way I want them to look ahead of time within the negative, so it with your example you just completely overexposed the whole thing and then brought down the blacks, with me if I were to shoot the same thing I would have underexposed the negative and then pushed the film a couple stops in order to get that look, I usually don't do something so extreme like that, I did it once and it came out really great, but again it was pre planned...
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Plus, this would be much more fun if we were all sitting around drinking a beer, or maybe whiskey.
Just like to lean in here to concur. For all its magic and usefulness the internet really does stink at the relationship thing. (btw, whiskey's a good start. You should meet at StoneNYC's crib...)
Just like to lean in here to concur. For all its magic and usefulness the internet really does stink at the relationship thing. (btw, whiskey's a good start. You should meet at StoneNYC's crib...)
If it's whiskey, it better be Scotch... I've got Johnny walker black and also the new Platinum, and I've really wanted to pick up some Talisker
Ultimately is prefer a nice Cabernet Sauvignon something in the $18-$30 range
That's 2-3 times what I normally pay for wine. But a nice cab is a beautiful thing.
That's 2-3 times what I normally pay for wine. But a nice cab is a beautiful thing. My palate is more in tune with a nice Barbera, Barolo, or barbaresco. The Italian wines have my wine heart.2009 was a good year.
My best friend and I often get together on a Saturday night and giving something new a try, we taste and sniff it and we spend about an hour just drinking wine and talking about all the flavors.
Sounds like a nice way to spend time. I like to do that too, but it isn't necessarily wine. To cook with friends, or mix a new special variation of a nice Manhattan cocktail, share a fine bottle of beer or wine, or appreciate art together - those are my favorite things to do.
My better half does this with reading too, where she attends something called 'Books and Bars', where a contingent of readers pick up the same book, and get together to discuss the book, in a bar, with food, and a moderator. It's a really wonderful event.
And I enjoy hanging out with my coffee geek / talented photographer friends, where we meet up with local coffee roaster friends and sample wonderful coffees and look at photographic prints together. It's one of the big highlights of the month for me.
Tangible things, with flavors and tones, give us a lot to talk about and explore.
I agree with Shawn that this would be much more interesting to talk about away from the internet. Not only can we discuss the subject matter, but we can also look at actual prints to show how we arrived where we did, which adds an incredible dynamic to the discussion.
Obviously, Stone, you have yet to learn the ABC's of sensitometry. Since you obviously know exactly zero about any of this, and can only
articulate you want a certain look without the slightest idea of how to arrive there except sheer luck, and then depend upon some lab to hopefully squeeze something useful out of otherwise naive exposures, and then try to discuss the pros and cons of different films relative to
this, when you don't even understand the most basic terminology involved .... &%#@@!!! No.. you haven't made prints yet. That's fine, but
doing so would help you understand the process and why you need versatile negs. You kinda like someone who says he only needs to drive in
the city, so only needs a two-speed transmission in the car, without a reverse. But if you've only ever taken a cab, you might not realize what a ridiculous comment that is.
I agree with Shawn that this would be much more interesting to talk about away from the internet. Not only can we discuss the subject matter, but we can also look at actual prints to show how we arrived where we did, which adds an incredible dynamic to the discussion.
Drew,
All the sensitometry knowledge in the world won't do you any good if you have no talent for photography when it comes to framing and composition and understanding subject matter...
Anyway our perspectives obviously differ, can we agree to disagree and move onto more important things, like wine?
...are you serious? What the actual f*** is wrong with you? Why is it that you seem to take every offer of advice and resources and turn it into some kind of accusation about your methods? You don't have to be a sensitometric nerd (sorry sensitometric nerds), but you would only serve yourself by understanding your materials more clearly.
I think Drew might know something about framing and composition.
Your blatant lack of understanding, coupled with your insufferable arrogance, and unwillingness to actually make an effort to learn is embarrassing.
I thought maybe by now you would have learned at least that reciting clichés is a cliché.
Good analogy.... how do you know what a good wine is if you don't know how to pull a cork?
Or how to tell if the wine is corked in the first place...
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