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Hyperbole?According to the Sierra Club, it is permitted to use snowshoes on the snow, but skiis are not allowed because their god has not blessed skiis. Therefore all skiers are damned to Hell by the Sierra Club. Yes, they do some good, but they are intolerant of anyone that does not act exactly as they have ordained. If you have any mobility issues according to them, you must not see anything in nature or you must immediately die. If you cannot hike 200km in a day with a 400kg backpack, you do not deserve to use their oxygen.
Hyperbole?
You have actual experience with 200km hikes and 400kg backpacks? Advocating death for people with disabilities?No. actual experience.
You have actual experience with 200km hikes and 400kg backpacks? Advocating death for people with disabilities?
Sorry Drew.Well, I routinely carried packs up to 90 lbs (200 kg) for days on end
No, Sierra Club members at one of their meeting told me unless I could backpack and camp hiking very long distances, then I did not deserve to see National Parks, National Monuments, or BLM land. They said unless I could hike those distances and backpack in and out that I "was not welcome in natural surroundings" [their words].
No, Sierra Club members at one of their meeting told me unless I could backpack and camp hiking very long distances, then I did not deserve to see National Parks, National Monuments, or BLM land. They said unless I could hike those distances and backpack in and out that I "was not welcome in natural surroundings" [their words].
I do not care about golf course, but if I wanted all golf course would be eliminated, but then I would be like the Sierra Club.
No. actual experience.
Hyperbole?
We all agree on a lot of this. But the Sierra Club which solicits funds around here (to which we sometimes donate) is based in Berkeley, and involves a lot of students looking for a cause, as usual, who don't have the slightest idea of what they are talking about because they've never been there. One day I hauled my 8x10 out to the tip of Tomales Point - about a 7 mi round-trip hike - and right at the very end of that thing were about 20 S.Clubbers having a debate about population control in Africa. Fine. Do it somewhere else, rather than creating your own population traffic jam on NP land. So, without saying a word, I just stepped in the middle of them, plopped down my huge pack and set up my big Ries wooden tripod while they stared with their little REI book bags. They got the point and moved somewhere less obstructive. Well, you can imagine what is was like back when trailheads basically used only by a few local were suddenly policed with a messy camp of thirty or forty
volunteers with an attitude trying to boss you around. I'm truly grateful for all the formal designation of wilderness which did transpire; I just don't care much for when a particular group thinks the rules apply to everyone but them. So I'm more an admirer of what the Nature Conservancy has accomplished with darn less fuss and darn fewer lawsuits simply by talking to ranchers etc than taking an attitude of superiority to them. Get rid of all the cattle in some places and what you get in place
of them is concrete and asphalt sprawl. And in many places, now that the original big herbivores are all gone, cattle hooves are the only thing properly aerating the soil. Ecologists are taking note (I've got a degree in field biology myself). But I have zero sympathy for Cliven Bundy types... End of diatribe, and back to petty arguments over photographic issues.
This should be surprising, but it isn't: in almost every aspect of life there are self-proclaimed arbiters of the proper way of doing things.
Perhaps it'd be better not to be taken in by fantasy tales? I'm not telling you what's "proper," just suggesting that some folks might know how to do some things better than some other people do.
According to the Sierra Club, it is permitted to use snowshoes on the snow, but skiis are not allowed because their god has not blessed skiis. Therefore all skiers are damned to Hell by the Sierra Club. Yes, they do some good, but they are intolerant of anyone that does not act exactly as they have ordained. If you have any mobility issues according to them, you must not see anything in nature or you must immediately die. If you cannot hike 200km in a day with a 400kg backpack, you do not deserve to use their oxygen.
Just to clarify: I was definitely not making any reference to you nor to anyone else in this thread, nor to the content of this thread.
As to whether the story is real, yes, I believed it - but I didn't take the alleged remark as being representative of the organization - only the person who is alleged to have said it. Regardless, I have known one person, a friend's wife, who held similar views about who "deserves" to see nature.
We are well justified when we curse purported friends for their choices in women but we're around the bend if we have to invent people to support foolish off-topic arguments.
Perhaps it'd be better not to be taken in by fantasy tales? I'm not telling you what's "proper," just suggesting that some folks might know how to do some things better than some other people do.
Hyperbole?
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