Stone—
Yay! That curl was about what I saw on my Verichrome Pan roll. The neg scan I attempted was absolutely terrible since I don't have a transparency scanner; I didn't feel good about posting it at all. If I could get a couple of pieces of AN glass, though, I could run them through the enlarger.
So when are you going to take the plunge and get yourself an enlarger and stuff? My Beseler 23c setup doesn't take up much room, though with 116 negs you'll probably need something that handles 4x5s…
Congrats!
And by then they may not make print paper anymore...
But by the time the majors have stopped making print paper, a new set of enterprising aficionados of the silver halide medium will have begun to make a cottage industry of designer emulsions. The trend will, of course, be to roll your own from raw components, but for those who will be just starting in the hobby, there'll be a wide range of starter kitsquite possibly including camera, film, and processing mailermade available.
As time moves on and technology changes, certain small shops will gain an almost cult following. Favorite emulsions, papers, and chemistry will be touted across the new mass media. Before long, a few leaders in the foray will emerge.
The Great Yellow Father will rise once more.
Great job Stone! Your resurrction of a 60 hear old roll a film is inspiration! Happy New Year!
cool stuff stone !
you can make a contact print
in the sun with regular old photo paper and glass ( to keep your film flat )
( or a contact printing frame works great )
printing times vary depending on the intensity of the sun and blue rays ..
maybe 40mins, maybe a few hours, it depends ...
but you can scan the prints and not have to worry about negative scans
or having a "real darkroom" ... the image will turn grey or vanish eventually ...
but while they are on the photo paper they will have funky tone that might
look nice with your old emulsions
have fun !
john
Old film can amaze at times for sure. My adventures with the 40's stock:
1949 expired 5x7 Kodak Super-XX, exposed and developed 2010
and
1944 expired 5x7 Gevaert Ultra Panchro
Super-XX is basically fine, just ruined a bit by interleaving paper, which probably got some moisture at some point in time.
Just a note that there was Verichrome, an ortho film, before there was Verichrome Pan and I don't recall when the transition occurred, but I think it was about 1950 +/- 5 years. I also don't know if there was significant difference in how they responded to processing. But it might be someone's experience with a roll from the 60s might be different from one from the 40s or early 50s due to other factors than age. (Just sayin!)
But it's pretty impressive the stuff works at all, definitely a cool experiment. A couple of years back I discovered, in an old camera here, a roll of Verichrome Pan that had exposures on it (learned to be from 1981 after seeing the content) which I was able to recover to a surprising level of viability with HC110.
Seems the name Pan was added when it changed to Panchromatic from Ortho but I really want to know about the base, if its a Nitrite Base film... There is some foggy detail in between where they may have switched away from Nitrite but not quite used current Safety film, I just wish PE would cue in here and give more info, I wish you could "tag" people in posts here haha.
If the base is Nitrite, it can be used to "save your bacon"
I think you mean Nitrate.
As I understand it, if the film is Safety Film, and is of that vintage, it will say Safety Film in the rebate.
EDIT: this photo-net thread might be informative for you Stone: http://photo.net/black-and-white-photo-film-processing-forum/00Tiud
The Gaevert is sort of foggy like it was a soft focus shot, and obviously one side was exposed to light over the years. Thanks.
Were either of those Nitrite based emulsions? I am REALLY curious about any knowledge on this...
Gevaert is foggy because of stand development in Rodinal plus possibly an overexposure. Never do the stand dev with aged film, it digs up any base fog you possibly have.
This one side was not exposed to light, it was ruined by me by squeezing the 5x7 sheet into 2-reel jobo tank for stand development.
Both are safety films, not Nitrite.
I wonder if that's why Ilfsol 3 worked ok, because its such a faster developer there isn't time for the fog to be pulled out....
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