Sadly I don't think too many photographers these days are interested in making there own prints. Maybe a 1/3 of film photographer I know either are making there own prints or are in the process of acquiring the bits to do it. I dont know of any digital armature photographers who actively make there own prints, usually if they do its with a third party. Im sure there are plenty who do use a inject printer but I would think the ratio would be far less.Youd have to ask Canon and Epson about that. They each target serious amateurs with 3 or 4 inkjet photo printers that cost less than serious amateurs often spend on enlargers.
+1What nonsense.
Can someone tell me what this thread is about? I'm walking in darkness ... View attachment 219326
People like me don't make my digital prints while I did make my own prints from film because we don't have enough volume. I can make a few prints in the darkroom now and then but not digital prints. If I don't use the inkjet printer for sometimes chances are that I would have to buy a new one.Sadly I don't think too many photographers these days are interested in making there own prints. Maybe a 1/3 of film photographer I know either are making there own prints or are in the process of acquiring the bits to do it. I dont know of any digital armature photographers who actively make there own prints, usually if they do its with a third party. Im sure there are plenty who do use a inject printer but I would think the ratio would be far less.
I have a sneaking suspicion the OP is ship-stirring us (a game he seems to enjoy and I think, is rather good at playing, and why not?) - but he roped in at least 50 of us so far (including me), with many more likely more to come.
Thank you for the endorsement - that's exactly my problem.Also me. Especially the part about "changing partners"- I'm so out of it, I took "swinging" to mean changing formats, like from 35mm to 120.
This thread gives the term"demographics"an entirely new meaning. Things will liven up around here and, I suspect many a chemist/drug store/pharmacy has sold out of smelling salts after this post - the more darkroom-savvy can revive their shocked senses by sniffing undiluted stop bath.
Now if the OP or someone could please explain to at least two of us, what this thread has to do with (or it doing in) a photo web site...
I have a sneaking suspicion the OP is ship-stirring us (a game he seems to enjoy and I think, is rather good at playing, and why not?) - but he roped in at least 50 of us so far (including me), with many more likely more to come.
Good one, jtk!!
Thank you for your kind advice.Have you tried reading the OT?
Well, the "why not" is for each of us to decide. My question is "why?". It's a familiar, pernicious and easy formula (I mean the enjoyment of divisiveness and goading people into a put-down level of discourse). Not meaning to single out anyone because it's not just one person or one web site but this is just so common. See if any of this sounds familiar - It seems to be everywhere:
That thing you do, the thing that brings you joy? Everyone agrees you're doing it wrong. Please share your thoughts.
You're a member of a sorry group that does things the old and inferior way, and it's been superseded. Let's talk about it.
If you're young and exciting and connected to the future then you do this thing just like me. Maybe you should join my club.
Those tools and techniques you use are suitable for high schoolers mainly, on their way to better things. Just sayin'.
That accomplished artist or philosopher that inspires you? A well known hack to those with any ability to read. What do you think?
Oh, you have an opinion on something? Share your work and be judged.
Here's my superior, learned opinion, which I will share after reminding you of my every credential for the hundredth time.
Oh, well that's okay for you but it's not how the pros do it.
And so on.
Sadly I don't think too many photographers these days are interested in making there own prints. Maybe a 1/3 of film photographer I know either are making there own prints or are in the process of acquiring the bits to do it. I dont know of any digital armature photographers who actively make there own prints, usually if they do its with a third party. Im sure there are plenty who do use a inject printer but I would think the ratio would be far less.
I'd bet that more inkjet photo printers have been sold each year for the past decade than enlargers... Not to mention Nikon, Canon, pentax dslr vs film cameras
Perhaps that's relevant.
You only buy an enlarger once. Inkjet printers need to be replaced more often, either from obsolescence or duty cycle. At least that's been my experience.I'd bet that more inkjet photo printers have been sold each year for the past decade than enlargers... Not to mention Nikon, Canon, pentax dslr vs film cameras
Perhaps that's relevant.
When I used inkjet for photos I had to buy a printer about every time I want to print.You only buy an enlarger once. Inkjet printers need to be replaced more often, either from obsolescence or duty cycle. At least that's been my experience.
Demographically, I'm now old enough for senior discounts, settled and using film, digital, inkjet and optical printing and digital negatives for van dykes.
It's only photography.
That's also pretty much describes every single youtube video out there. Don't believe me? Just watch my video on 10 easy pro hacks to take your photography to the next level using these top 10 camera settings you're using wrong and why your camera may be holding you back and check out this camera that will replace your dead micro 4/3 sensor.Well, the "why not" is for each of us to decide. My question is "why?". It's a familiar, pernicious and easy formula (I mean the enjoyment of divisiveness and goading people into a put-down level of discourse). Not meaning to single out anyone because it's not just one person or one web site but this is just so common. See if any of this sounds familiar - It seems to be everywhere:
That thing you do, the thing that brings you joy? Everyone agrees you're doing it wrong. Please share your thoughts.
You're a member of a sorry group that does things the old and inferior way, and it's been superseded. Let's talk about it.
If you're young and exciting and connected to the future then you do this thing just like me. Maybe you should join my club.
Those tools and techniques you use are suitable for high schoolers mainly, on their way to better things. Just sayin'.
That accomplished artist or philosopher that inspires you? A well known hack to those with any ability to read. What do you think?
Oh, you have an opinion on something? Share your work and be judged.
Here's my superior, learned opinion, which I will share after reminding you of my every credential for the hundredth time.
Oh, well that's okay for you but it's not how the pros do it.
And so on.
When I used inkjet for photos I had to buy a printer about every time I want to print.
As everyone knows analog use is down. On the other hand many may already have enlargers from buying them before the days of inkjet, so no need to buy. The same with film cameras. So naturally sales of these will be less.
I am chagrined to say that not wanting to invest the time and energy in such printing is the main reason I have invested very little into it. I have respect for what it takes to create quality work in ANY discipline and don't believe in shortcuts.Takes skill and dedication to do right with inkjet, same as darkroom.
Not about skill. I don't use it often and every time I use it the head clogged. I have to buy a new printer. For darkroom I just need to buy fresh paper and chemicals. I do only RA-4 I don't do B&W.Takes skill and dedication to do right with inkjet, same as darkroom.
I replaced my Leica enlarger with Epson 2200 and never looked back.
Not about skill. I don't use it often and every time I use it the head clogged. I have to buy a new printer. For darkroom I just need to buy fresh paper and chemicals. I do only RA-4 I don't do B&W.
Jim, Interesting... I'm aware of two clubs here. The huge one has excellent presentations by nationally well-known photographers but is technically judgemental and seems Photoshop obsessed. The small one is an exclusively film photo club that is more interested in film cameras than prints.....or even imagery.
...What are your thoughts/prejudices/experiences?
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