I think there is a certain amount of fetishism with analog in some quarters, be it film, tube amplifiers, or vinyl recordings. I wouldn't pay nosebleed prices for modern Leica (even though these cameras are indeed beautiful) simply because they are inherently limited by format.
I do own a IIIF and 50mm Summicron f/2 with a total investment of well under $1000. The pictures it takes are every bit the equivalent of what I could with a brand new M6 or M-A.
Real Leicas are Barnacks. Real Porsches are air cooled.
Nice to know how you think of the word 'image', but there is no 'visibility criterion' except for the one you personally hold.I...The name ”latent image” says that it's not a proper or visible image yet, so fits with the visibility criterion, too. A digital file can contain the information to form an image, but, by just the visibility criterion, in itself isn't an image per se, ...
If a poem is copied to an SD card, does its beauty become divided, or does it multiply?
If a poem is copied to an SD card, does its beauty become divided, or does it multiply?
Is it a poem yet if it is printed in a book?If a poem is copied to an SD card, does its beauty become divided, or does it multiply?
Is it a poem yet if it is printed in a book?
If a poem is copied to an SD card, does its beauty become divided, or does it multiply?
Let's see ... who first came up the term, "analog photography"? Was it Henry Fox Talbot, Niecpe, or Daguerre? Seems to me that something held claim to the title of photography for about 150 years before there was a bifurcation to its meaning. Yet here everyone is on an "analog equipment" and "film" thread of all places, going on and on about digital-this, digital-that versus analog-this, analog that. When somebody asks me if I still use film and have a real darkroom, I simply respond, "Is there anything else?'. Well, there are all kinds of other things; I just don't attach a label to them which has rightfully belonged to something else all along. No, they're not the same. If they were, people would be putting discs and thumb-drives into picture frames and albums instead.
Is there such a thing as a fake darkroom, I wonder?
Is there such a thing as a fake darkroom, I wonder?
I just won't live long enough to read through a typical E-gadget owner's manual. Somewhere around p.403 you finally find out which combination of buttons to push which allows you to turn off five dozen on-board apps you neither want nor will ever use, just so you can take an actual picture. My younger wife ridiculed me and blamed my age for not being good with those things. Then when she was handed a digital camera for sake of Operating Room documentation, after a few days she gave up trying to figure it out and asked me to set it up for her. After two weeks of wading through the manual, I locked the whole thing in so it could only take one type of pictures, and told her not to touch any other commands. That worked. No possibility of a giraffe or comet getting digitally spliced into the middle of the image, or of all the details becoming psychedelic bubble colors.
I surprised that digital capture is valid at all if the before/during/after pictures become "evidence" in a medical lawsuit - which does happen. They're just too easy to digitally manipulate these days. I walked out on a Dentist that was trying to talk me into a very expensive procedure, showing me a "digital X-Ray" that was conspicuously tweaked. I already overhead him recommending the same thing to other patients in nearby rooms first.
As far as a "Virtual Darkroom" goes, Chuck, I'm sure someone could come up a 3d headset to provide a simulated version of actual darkroom experience: tripping over power cords, accidentally spilling acid on your feet, loading a film holder with the film backwards, getting paper fogged due to a defective safelight, dropping an expensive lens in the dark, even having the cat sneak in and getting its hair all through your enlarger. It would be more fun than virtual golf.
I'll have to look at the manual again, if I could take pictures with a giraffe surfing a comet in a wave of psychedelic bubbles say in the twinkle of an eye (or in the gunk between teeth) with no post-processing that's the look I'm going for.
Really? Thats interesting.
If I take a digital photo but never display it, would it not be a photograph?
Or if I develop a film negative in complete darkness and then put it in a dark box. Is there no photograph?
I tried to think about it, but I don't know...
Slow day?
What is an image in your example here then? Would "the poet creates music within the minds" mean the very same thing? To me it sounds like you meant that one experiences imagery - visual, as opposed to, for instance, auditory - sensations. Maybe you didn't, then it's a metaphor I suppose? Do you actually think "image" is not of the visual realm or do you just find my wording too narrow?Nice to know how you think of the word 'image', but there is no 'visibility criterion' except for the one you personally hold.
Example: Poetry. As an art form, the poet creates images within the minds of the audience with words.
What is an image in your example here then? Would "the poet creates music within the minds" mean the very same thing? To me it sounds like you meant that one experiences imagery - visual, as opposed to, for instance, auditory - sensations. Maybe you didn't, then it's a metaphor I suppose? Do you actually think "image" is not of the visual realm or do you just find my wording too narrow?
Image = imagination So YES!!!, "image" does not only belong to the visual world!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Creating images (visual, audio, touch) is what our minds DO!What is an image in your example here then? Would "the poet creates music within the minds" mean the very same thing? YES!!!! To me it sounds like you meant that one experiences imagery - visual, as opposed to, for instance, auditory - sensations. Maybe you didn't, then it's a metaphor I suppose? Do you actually think "image" is not of the visual realm or do you just find my wording too narrow?
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