So your scan is a "raw" tiff with the edits listed separately that LR can then interpret or remove in my machine's Lightroom v.6 licensed rather than a tiff where all the edits are built-in and non reverseable?
So your scan is a "raw" tiff with the edits listed separately that LR can then interpret or remove in my machine's Lightroom v.6 licensed rather than a tiff where all the edits are built-in and non reverseable?because DNG is Adobe Lightroom’s native format. DNG also lets you store the image as a CFA array instead of full RGB, which means smaller files. DNG also stores all of your edits in the file non-destructively, so you can pass just the DNG file around and all the edits go with it. AND, DNG is in fact a TIFF file.
So your scan is a "raw" tiff with the edits listed separately that LR can then interpret or remove in my machine's Lightroom v.6 licensed rather than a tiff where all the edits are built-in and non reverseable?
On my own scans, I save all of them in Tiff, whether Epsonscan made any edits during the scan process or not. Then I use LR to edit. Assuming I could save scans in DNR (don't know if I can with Epsonscan), what advantage if any is there when I open LR?
ive had a number revisions to my color since you last sent film to me. Btw, if the skies are too magenta for your liking, it’s a pretty easy fix to ever so slightly either increase the green or reduce the red using the LR tone curve for the highlights to nudge it more towards greenish blue and less towards magenta/purple.
interesting comparisons. NLP seems to be too aggressive when it comes to pushing highlights to clipping.
Wouldn't that take up twice the data storage?for anything Epson scan generates, there isn’t any, but you can tell LR to convert your TIFF files to DNG and gain a fair amount of portability for your LlR edits. If you keep them as TIFF files, LR will store what edits it can in the standard tiff metadata, and the rest in the LR catalog file. If it’s DNG, it stores everything in both places.
Wouldn't that take up twice the data storage?
Hi Adrian,
Are there any other file storage formats that share similar advantages. I avoid the Adobe products - mostly Corel here.
I note that I can read DNG files, but I can't write them.
Thanks for your feedback. I have a few more rolls of Portra 160 and a roll of Ektar you may be seeing one day.
And thanks for the tip about the LR Curve tool. I have been using the LR Curve tool for controlling lights and darks, but for some reason, I have not been using it for color corrections. I have tried using the basic green:magenta slider but adjustments toward the green side usually resulted in the neutral gray tones (concrete, etc.) shifting too much to green before the magenta sky was fully corrected. The magenta seems to somehow be firmly associated with the blue sky, and even after using gradient and brush tools to limit the correction to the sky, I have not been able to get the skies the way I want them. I have been using Lightroom since 2016, and I agree that this should be a "pretty easy fix" but, so far, I am still struggling with it. However, I just played around with the curve tool set to the green channel, and I think that will be more helpful than some of my previous attempts.
Thanks Adrian.
I sure hope you didn't copy type your last post!
Can you share some results in full res?
I cannot convert TIFF files to DNGs. Both Lightroom and Adobe DNG reject conversion of TIFF files. How are you doing the conversion?for anything Epson scan generates, there isn’t any, but you can tell LR to convert your TIFF files to DNG and gain a fair amount of portability for your LlR edits. If you keep them as TIFF files, LR will store what edits it can in the standard tiff metadata, and the rest in the LR catalog file. If it’s DNG, it stores everything in both places.
I cannot convert TIFF files to DNGs. Both Lightroom and Adobe DNG reject conversion of TIFF files. How are you doing the conversion?
[Edit: the only way I can convert is to invoke Export as DNG from LrC, after having imported as TIFF. The logical step to convert would be at import (Copy as DNG), but that is not possible.]
Thank you. I was hoping for a way to convert TIFFs to DNG upon or before import. I assume you have written your own code to do that. Converting after export (Convert Photo to DNG) leaves both tiff and DNG files on disk.
Thank you. I was hoping for a way to convert TIFFs to DNG upon or before import. I assume you have written your own code to do that. Converting after export (Convert Photo to DNG) leaves both tiff and DNG files on disk.
After seeing all the metadata in your post, what advantage really is there for the average photographer to store scans in DNG rather than tiff. SInce no one handles the metadata other than Adobe, it seems I would be better off sticking with simple tiff scans. Once I do the LR edits, I create a final tiff and/or jpeg final image file. At least I could open them up with other than Adobe software that I use like Photoshop Elements and Windows picture and Irfanview. Some of these might open DNG (I don't know as I haven't tried), but many might not. I:d rather stick with a more universal format like tiff or jpeg.LOL... No,... copy/paste, change font. I actually forgot I spotted out so many spots on that particular file, but there they are in the metadata.
All that being said, It would be so awesomely useful if other image editing tools even implemented a small subset of the ACR/LR Develop module. The white balance, basic tone, tone curve, crop and color tool panels would standardize interoperability and instantly make things more portable between software. These are all standard issue image editing operations that most if not all image editing software does, so why everybody does it their own way and/or bakes it in, just isn't doing their users any favors. There's no technical reason not to.
After seeing all the metadata in your post, what advantage really is there for the average photographer to store scans in DNG rather than tiff. SInce no one handles the metadata other than Adobe, it seems I would be better off sticking with simple tiff scans. Once I do the LR edits, I create a final tiff and/or jpeg final image file. At least I could open them up with other than Adobe software that I use like Photoshop Elements and Windows picture and Irfanview. Some of these might open DNG (I don't know as I haven't tried), but many might not. I:d rather stick with a more universal format like tiff or jpeg.
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