Yes, the custom parts are often the issue, I think. I have had two repairmen tell me that the meter in my FM can't be fixed because they don't have the part - something under the ISO dial. The camera still makes pictures just fine, though.Which is why I'm glad that I see several posts on this thread that refute that assumption.
I think the real issue at hand is that people who repair old cameras and people who repair old electronics are two mutually exclusive groups. The skills are somewhat different, and people often think something they don't understand must be a black art.
Another issue is that cameras probably use some custom components that aren't easily replaceable with off-the-shelf parts and can't be fabricated without industrial facilities. I'm not sure how often these components are the point of failure, but they are something worth considering.
Mechanical or electronic all will fail. I don't see that the mechanical cameras would be more reliable than electronic counterparts.
Are you the original owner.?I have 2 Fe's, 4 FE2's, 4 FA's, 6 F2A's, 8 F3HP's and an FM. I think the meters are slightly off on the FM and 1 FE. Not bad.
As you can take mechanical donor parts from another sample, you can take an electronic parts too.The difference is mechanical parts can be salvaged from other cameras, but the electrical parts are not replaceable, spares do not exist.
The only issue with that is that it seems a lot of cameras that have developed a fault with their electrical side tend to be the same fault .As you can take mechanical donor parts from another sample, you can take an electronic parts too.
The same may apply with mechanical parts.The only issue with that is that it seems a lot of cameras that have developed a fault with their electrical side tend to be the same fault .
The same may apply with mechanical parts.
This means replicating a mechanical part in other material or design, or substituting an electronic part by some of other specification/from other manufacturer.
The only issue with that is that it seems a lot of cameras that have developed a fault with their electrical side tend to be the same fault ..
Amazon refused to sell NEW Minolta scanners and dslrs due to grief with products . Their support told me that. Later, Minolta itself in NJ told me that flood of failure caused them to stop doing those warranty "repairs". Then the hammer fell.
The new decade of 2020 and onwards means your Nikon electronic cameras are hitting 40 years of age. I am talking about the F3's, FE's, FE2's and FA's. How are your collector cameras holding up? Mine has taken a big hit lately with failures of a FA, a deceased FE and my best F3 has developed an aberration causing a delay in firing. I fear these cameras won't get to 50 yr old. So what's your thoughts, stock up on a few more good users, buy F4's, or does the FM2 and F2 go to Leica M3 levels of desirable collectables?
I should mention that I have had SEVERAL digital cameras die. My film cameras are far outlasting the digital cameras I have, which were made decades later! That tells me something about the trend of manufacturing standards... probably because the manufacturers know that their target customers will be "upgrading" in two years, anyway. It reminds me a lot of cell phones. I truly wonder which is better for the environment between digital and film cameras, especially if you account for all the phone cameras.
This probably lies at the core of a lot of the misconceptions around electronic cameras. A lot of camera repair people are older and have very little electronics knowledge, and won't know how to troubleshoot an electrical problem outside of replacing an entire board. Most people with electronics knowledge aren't interested in vintage cameras. They tend to be more interested in vintage sound reproduction like hifi, HAM radios, and guitar amps. It's kind of the same problem with appliance repair or automotive mechanics. Most people who do appliance repair and automotive work don't know much about electronics, so if something electrical has gone bad, their only recourse is to swap out the entire circuit board, or scrap the whole thing and call it a lost cause. They can't troubleshoot on a component level, like the hifi guys can. And they don't like to admit that they aren't skilled enough to do the job, so they blame the design of the gear, rather than their limited education. So the notion that electronics can't be repaired, or is too difficult to repair, has kind of creeped into our collective thinking.Which is why I'm glad that I see several posts on this thread that refute that assumption.
I think the real issue at hand is that people who repair old cameras and people who repair old electronics are two mutually exclusive groups. The skills are somewhat different, and people often think something they don't understand must be a black art.
Another issue is that cameras probably use some custom components that aren't easily replaceable with off-the-shelf parts and can't be fabricated without industrial facilities. I'm not sure how often these components are the point of failure, but they are something worth considering.
A lot of camera repair people are older and have very little electronics knowledge, and won't know how to troubleshoot an electrical problem outside of replacing an entire board... Mechanical cameras just have the preception [sic] of being easier to repair because of the demographics of your average camera repair person, who likely learned the trade before electronic cameras were old enough to be in need of repair.
I do not want to put words in anybody's mouth..... he can speak for himself, but..... i THINK one of his main point was...Techs today are not trained to trouble-shoot at the component level. That is what is needed (frequently) to repair a lot of the pre 200o film cameras.Entire Boards/Circuits are not readily availableI'm not sure I see where these assumptions come from. The vast majority of the public has been using digital cameras for some time, which also need repairmen. Modern cameras are very advanced, and it is not difficult to get them repaired by someone.
The repairman in my town is an older gentleman, but he is also (or was?) an authorized Nikon repairman. He gave me a tour of his facilities, and his tools were very advanced (and expensive). He may be a little older than I am, but he is quite capable of repairing many types of cameras, from my RB67 (which he did) to my D700. In fact, it appeared to me that most of the repairs that were ongoing in his shop were for modern cameras.
For older cameras, I think it comes down to parts availability. Electronic or mechanical.
Me too. Just consumer P&Ss, but still. The preference for tilting screens is a time bomb, flexi-cables and continued bending won't end well.I should mention that I have had SEVERAL digital cameras die.
I have always thought the same thing about the tilting screens. Still, I must confess my interest in having what someone here once called a digital camera with a waist level finder. When the digital camera I currently use for work breaks (as they all seem to do), I have my eye on an Olympus camera that will scratch that itch.Me too. Just consumer P&Ss, but still. The preference for tilting screens is a time bomb, flexi-cables and continued bending won't end well.
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