Ctein goes digital!

[F80p]

Hope more and more people come into beautiful film world.

 

[PVia]

Agree with Thomas and Bruce, above.

What a so-called expert does is of no consequence to me. I also notice that I own no photography books by any of them as well.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Agree with Thomas and Bruce, above.

What a so-called expert does is of no consequence to me. I also notice that I own no photography books by any of them as well.

Ctein's 'Post Exposure' is recommended. I don't have the expectation that I will agree "right on" completely with any photographic author.

Tom

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Sandy, from what I was told in November (by a couple of UK photo stores) that statement is partially true, but it's experience people leaving who spent money on materials and the new users are not yet spending so much.

It's an uphill struggle when the vast mass of photo magazines have turned their backs on film/analog and re-invented themselves as digital magazines.

Then there's the attitude of camera/photo stores, of the 8+ in the town I live in only one knows what 120 is, and he thought it had long gone.

Many of our problems are down to the collective attitudes of the film manufacturers not promoting a broader approach to re-energising the marketing of film, targeting the magazines and retailers, re-educating them that film is still around and alive and thriving.

Ian

I came across APUG in 2003 or '04 via photo.net which I don't recall being difficult to find. Today, it doesn't take much effort to realise product is available, even if through the www.harmanexpress.com site for UK residents.

Tom

 

[PVia]

Ctein's 'Post Exposure' is recommended. I don't have the expectation that I will agree "right on" completely with any photographic author.

Tom

Tom, I should have clarified ;-)

I meant no photography monographs or art books...the ones that matter!

 

[nolanr66]

I have never heard of Ctein until this thread and it turns out he lives only about 75miles away in Daly City. Maybe sometime I can catch an exhibit of his if he has one and I know about it.

 

[Tom Stanworth]

I would imagine he went digital for commercial reasons. If you have a name and make money out of being a 'photo technique master' then why restrict yourself to a backwater? Go for the big pond (digital) as there are richer pickings there. Even Barry Thornton was quick to see where had had to go to continue to earn a good living. Its funny, because back then he was using matt inkjet papers (no good gloss was available without bad metamerism) yet he went raving away (never using matt paper in his darkoom). He had to, but I know from experience that those matt inkjets, even the best back in 2001-2002) were not even in the same galaxy as a top notch silver print apart from when comparing evil negs that were almost unprintable.

Keep shooting film if it floats your boat. its not about what others do. i have shot a 3 year project on film. Why? not because it was easy, but because I love the results, the beautiful prints, the fidelity and a whole host of other reasons - my choice. I may shoot more digital in the future, but once again it will have nothing to do with what other people are doing.

 

[PVia]

Slightly off-thread, but connected to my last posts:

Another so-called expert in a recent photography magazine made disparaging remarks about Irving Penn, so I've written him off although I never paid attention to him anyway.

 

[clayne]

I have never heard of Ctein until this thread and it turns out he lives only about 75miles away in Daly City. Maybe sometime I can catch an exhibit of his if he has one and I know about it.

He even lives 5 minutes from my house, but I too have never seen his work. That doesn't mean it's not worth seeing, but I've always considered him a technician rather than a photographer.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

I would imagine he went digital for commercial reasons. If you have a name and make money out of being a 'photo technique master' then why restrict yourself to a backwater? Go for the big pond (digital) as there are richer pickings there. Even Barry Thornton was quick to see where had had to go to continue to earn a good living. Its funny, because back then he was using matt inkjet papers (no good gloss was available without bad metamerism) yet he went raving away (never using matt paper in his darkoom). He had to, but I know from experience that those matt inkjets, even the best back in 2001-2002) were not even in the same galaxy as a top notch silver print apart from when comparing evil negs that were almost unprintable.

Keep shooting film if it floats your boat. its not about what others do. i have shot a 3 year project on film. Why? not because it was easy, but because I love the results, the beautiful prints, the fidelity and a whole host of other reasons - my choice. I may shoot more digital in the future, but once again it will have nothing to do with what other people are doing.

Tom,

I never exactly understood Barry Thornton's position on inkjet and digital work. His books seem to place so much emphasis on issues around sharpness, glossy paper, non pictorialism etc. that matte inkjet paper circa 2001 seems rather "off".

Tom