Since I'm just getting back into film, maybe I'm off-base. Please educate me if that's the case.
At B & H, a 36 exp. roll of T-Max 400 is 4.95. A 100 ft. bulk roll is 119.95 . Assuming approx. 18.5 36 exp. rolls per bulk roll, this comes to about 6.48 per.
Shouldn't one see a savings by buying bulk? To see an actual increase in cost seems ridiculous to me.
Well if bulk rolls do not generate savings,it is difficult to work out why the bulk film equivalent is $1.50 more per roll and even more difficult when in the case of Ilford there are savings
pentaxuser
That does make no sense. bulk rolls should be cheaper.
It would not surprise me to learn that the set-up and other related costs for bulk film production greatly exceed the cost of producing the film itself.
Against that is the cost of the cassettes and cassette machine line. The Ilford one for instance which I have seen is quite a complex one and didn't look a cheap set-up.
We could ask Kodak for the reason. Only it can provide a conclusion to this question but I won't hold my breath.
As a customer I cannot reconcile what I know and believe to be the real cost of bulk roll v cassettes with the price differential so in the case of Kodak I'd vote with my feet and walk away from the bulk roll sales counter but unfortunately for Kodak in so doing I am no longer neutral but still feel somehow "taken advantage of" and that then adversely affects what residual loyalty I feel towards Kodak and overall makes me less supportive
This needn't and I am sure doesn't affect Kodak but it better be sure that I am in the minority. If I represent a substantial part of the market then that is more serious for it.
pentaxuser
I suppose cost-effectiveness will change with the type of use. If one needs 10-exposure rolls for tests or whatever, there will be no wasting of film having to use 24 exp rolls.
There is the cost of the large film can. Does 18 35mm film cassettes equal the cost of one large can? But it still seems that the price is a bit much for a bulk roll.
Hey guys,
Chiming in.. Kentmere..? I've heard good thing about that film. Does it produce a nice image?
Todd
You also have to include shipping charges. Say you order 6 rolls at a time. Your shipping is going to be approximately 3 times what a 100 foot roll would be.
Well if bulk rolls do not generate savings,it is difficult to work out why the bulk film equivalent is $1.50 more per roll and even more difficult when in the case of Ilford there are savings
pentaxuser
It wouldn't surprise me if the cost of the film itself is less than 10% of the cost of a bulk roll from Kodak.
And it wouldn't surprise me if Kodak's set-up and take-down costs for each line of film production they do are the highest in the industry.
And the "bean counters" probably insist that each line they produce recovers all its own costs, and that the profits from the sale of one line not be used to subsidize the other lines they produce.
When volumes were high, Kodak's huge machines made large profits for them, and their prices were relatively low.
Things have changed since then.
It makes sense when the photo processors stopped returning the film cassettes. Buying a set of 18 cassettes for a 100 foot roll of film made buy bulk film more expensive per shot than buy film at discount stores or camera stores that gave me a discount. Simple cost analysis at the time. I stopped shooting slides and now do most of my camera work with MF and LF. Ever try to bulk load 120 film?
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