Cool tone FB?

[Terence]

Does anyone make a cool-tone fiber paper? If not, what is the "coolest" tone paper. I'm referring to the opposite of warmtone paper, and not which paper would Fonzi use.

 

[reellis67]

Aaaayyy!

I don't know of any, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I use a cooltone developer, like Ilfords, or Burki and Jenny's cold tone developer. You can also add Benzotriazole to a developer to get cooltones, and you can bleach back in a rehalogentaing bleach and redevelop in a cooltone developer for even colder tones.

- Randy

 

[MMfoto]

I really dislike cool tone papers, so really cold tones to me may not be cool enough for you. But personally I've found Bergger NB to be very cool, you can probably add some eggplant with selenium as well. Developer will of course make a very big difference it image color.

 

[jeroldharter]

I think that Kentmere Fineprint VC FB paper developed in Zone VI developer is cold-toned (especially when it was in the tray next to Forte Polywarmtone).

 

[Will S]

Les McClean had some Ilford MGIV in the Ilford cooltone developer prints at the apug conference that looked very nice.

Best,

Will

 

[Eric Rose]

Forte Cold Tone if you can deal with their QC problems.

 

[JLP]

JandC's Nuance in Dektol also gives a pretty cool tone like the old Oriental Seagul (Not much left argh)


jan

 

[firecracker]

JandC's Nuance in Dektol also gives a pretty cool tone like the old Oriental Seagul (Not much left argh)


jan

The current Oriental VC FB paper is pretty cool and cold.

 

[David Lingham]

Ilford cooltone, Tetenal Eukbrom or Kodak Dektol are cold working developers, used with Ilford MGFB, Kentmere Fineprint FBVC or Kentona for a cold tone print. Cool of even further with brief gold tone.

 

[catem]

Forte Polygrade is a beautiful cooltone paper, gives deep blue-blacks, depending on the developer you use (e.g.as above post). Can work dramatically in portraits, depending on your subject. Makes a good change from Forte's warm tone papers, which I also use.

Cate

 

[FrankB]

For cooltone I end up torn between Ilford MGIV in Ilford Harman Cooltone dev (pure whites, cool shadows), Ilford MGWT in Ilford Harman Cooltone dev (cooler shadows but creamy whites), or Ilford MGWT toned in gold (steely blue-black shadows, but still those creamy highlights).

It is a bit of a problem - the WT emulsion reacts much better to toning, but the creamy base mitigates (slightly) the cool look. Now if Ilford put that emulsion on the MGIV base...!

 

[Leon]

I really like to use a cooltone developer (Ilford/Harman or Tetenal Eukobrom mixed at 1:5) on a paper with a warm base - fomatone mg or ilford mgfb warmtone. the bluey shadows against the creamy highlights is really nice. I rarely tone these prints as it ruins the subtle colours.

 

[Terence]

Thanks folks. Looks like I'll be picking up some Ilford cooltone developer.

 

[gonzalo_echeverria]

no doubt,
tetenal fb baryt fineart. i've tried everything to warm this paper up ... coool blacks in dektol 1:2 no doubt...

 

[skygzr]

Try Fotokemika Varycon

Try Fotokemika Varycon, available from Freestyle. It's noticeably bluish when developed in Dektol. It tends to get more neutral when toned in selenium.

 

[BarryWilkinson]

Forte Polygrade is a beautiful cooltone paper, gives deep blue-blacks, depending on the developer you use (e.g.as above post). Can work dramatically in portraits, depending on your subject. Makes a good change from Forte's warm tone papers, which I also use.

Cate

I agree with Cate on this one. Also if you develop it in Tetanol Dokumol it produces steely blue shadows.

Barry

 

[Zvonimir Ervacic]

Hi,

Sorry for a late reply.

If you are looking for a graded papers try Fotokemika Efkebrom. Ask Fotoimpex (EU) or Freestyle (US) for availability.
Efkebrom should be very similar to Emaks (a.k.a. Nuance) but a clod tone emulsion.

Pozdrav,
Zvonimir

 

[Terence]

Hi,

Sorry for a late reply.

If you are looking for a graded papers try Fotokemika Efkebrom. Ask Fotoimpex (EU) or Freestyle (US) for availability.
Efkebrom should be very similar to Emaks (a.k.a. Nuance) but a clod tone emulsion.

Pozdrav,
Zvonimir

Thanks again everyone. I've got a few new things to try.

 

[brian steinberger]

I'd like to suggest Ilford Universal PQ developer. It gives cool blacks. And also, though I've never tried it, I've seen prints in Edwal Ultra Black, and it is the coldest tone developer I've ever seen, but of course with the right paper.

 

[Mark Fisher]

Forte paper in Edwal Ultra Black is the coldest tone I've ever seen.