Composition Technique Question

[berarthbun]

So this is an odd question, yet perhaps someone knows the answer. Is there a name for the technique of capturing a single composition with multiple sheets of film? I use film as an example as I see this technique with mostly film. Imagine a triptych that lines up with the negatives butting together and that is what I am talking about. I’m racking my brain trying to recall the name. I hope I described it good enough.

-Bruce

 

[Vaughn]

"Stitching" is the new word for it in the computer age. I am not able to think of a previous term for it right now.

Montage might fit as a term, but there is no requirement for images to line up properly with that term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panor...mic_San_Francisco_from_Rincon_Hill_c.1851.jpg

 

[berarthbun]

I should have mentioned that it is not stitching. My bad. This is where the images lottery butt together as if separated by a window, if that makes sense. Montage would be a better fit, yet I think there is a specific term. The link is very similar to what I am talking about. Thanks again.

 

[macfred]

I'm not quite sure ... montage or collage?
German artist Thomas Kellner often describes his work as re-construction or de-construction https://www.diyphotography.net/photographer-uses-hundreds-of-film-negatives-to-create-a-single-work/
You probably mean something completely different ...

 

[berarthbun]

The example by Thomas Kellner is very, very close to what I am talking about. Imagine those images done with sheet film and lining up much closer. Nice images, but just a bit cluttered when compared to what I am thinking of.

 

[Pieter12]

I think your first instinct to call it a diptych, triptych, etc. is accurate. I the only name I can think of for many multiple frame images would be collage (like David Hockney) or montage.

 

[macfred]

Maybe interesting for the discussion ...
We have an old thread here about Rolleiflex panoramic work -
Chris Schwer describes his technique mounting three or more single silver gelantin prints to black museum board to get one -panoramic- scene.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/pano-head-for-rolleiflex.118998/#post-1835896

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/pano-head-for-rolleiflex.118998/#post-1880002

 

[removed account4]

do you mean like this
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=talking+h...3.cloudfront.net/images/covers/180/143430.jpg
or do the images overlap ?

 

[macfred]

do you mean like this
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=talking+heads+more+songs+about+buildings+and+food&t=osx&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/180/143430.jpghttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=talking+heads+more+songs+about+buildings+and+food&t=osx&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/180/143430.jpg
or do the images overlap ?

Great album!
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Overlapping images to one single photograph are called 'Joiners' (if I remember correct ... ).

 

[Arklatexian]

"Stitching" is the new word for it in the computer age. I am not able to think of a previous term for it right now.

Montage might fit as a term, but there is no requirement for images to line up properly with that term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panor...mic_San_Francisco_from_Rincon_Hill_c.1851.jpg

+1

 

[Vaughn]

The example by Thomas Kellner is very, very close to what I am talking about. Imagine those images done with sheet film and lining up much closer. Nice images, but just a bit cluttered when compared to what I am thinking of.

Something like this?

Tree and Jacky. Two 4x5 negatives

 

[berarthbun]

Very similar, yet usually I see more shots in the composition. Let me see if I can find a good example.

 

[MattKing]

This is probably better described as a presentation choice, rather than a composition choice.
The canvas printing businesses describe it as split canvas prints.

 

[Truzi]

Has anyone suggested "composite" yet?

 

[macfred]

Has anyone suggested "composite" yet?

Sounds good !

''Compositing is the combining of visual elements from separate sources into single images, often to create the illusion that all those elements are part of the same scene.'' (Wikipedia)

 

[Pieter12]

Does it really need a name? Talk to a curator.

 

[warden]

I'm not quite sure ... montage or collage?
German artist Thomas Kellner often describes his work as re-construction or de-construction https://www.diyphotography.net/photographer-uses-hundreds-of-film-negatives-to-create-a-single-work/
You probably mean something completely different ...

Those are very cool. The photographer has a healthy film budget!

 

[David Brown]

Matt Magruder (who used to be active on this board) calls them "assemblages". They are on his website under "Windows". He does wet plate, but using sheet or even roll film would be the same. Matt has done roll film as well.

http://matthewmagruder.com/portfolio/wetplate/windows/

 

[jtk]

So this is an odd question, yet perhaps someone knows the answer. Is there a name for the technique of capturing a single composition with multiple sheets of film? I use film as an example as I see this technique with mostly film. Imagine a triptych that lines up with the negatives butting together and that is what I am talking about. I’m racking my brain trying to recall the name. I hope I described it good enough.

-Bruce

I worked with a retoucher who selectively floated the emulsion off two sheets of Ektachrome, joined them into one transparency for reproduction. It became a believable single image of a pond with something unlikely "reflected" in it. I don't recall my client...the retoucher was eager to try the technique,..he underpriced with something around $200. Long before Photoshop.

 

[removed account4]

Great album!
--
Overlapping images to one single photograph are called 'Joiners' (if I remember correct ... ).

yeah love that album !

 

[Mainecoonmaniac]

Have you heard of Jerry Uelsman? He uses multiple negatives to print his photos. He uses many enlargers to do this.

http://www.uelsmann.net/

 

[chris schwer]

hello,

I know this is an old post but the answer to the original question about the proper term for creating panoramic images from sequential frames is "Segmented Panoramic" In the very distant history before panoramic cameras were produced, photographers often shot multiple sheets of film to create a very wide field. Searching the web with this term will often bring up modern digital compositions rather than the historical images you may be seeking. The world of panoramic photography has changed forever. I still use the old methods of sequential frames and hand made prints that match in the and contrast.

 

[sasah zib]

just in time for Barbara Bosworth show:
From January 22 – July 23, 2022, the Center for Creative Photography (CCP) and the Laboratory of Tree-Ring Research (LTRR) will stage installations together that follow historical, cultural, and scientific narratives inspired by trees.

With more than 75 images and objects assembled from CCP and LTRR’s collections, trees stir in their leaves creates a multilayered experience with photography and dendrochronology (the study of annual rings in trees) in CCP’s Alice Chaiten Baker Interdisciplinary Gallery. Learn how visual information and analyses are crucial to tree-ring research and environmental advocacy. Explore trees as a point of departure from which artists and scientists consider nature, place, progress, migration, connectivity, and catastrophe. The installation includes work by such CCP collection artists as Ansel Adams, Lola Álvarez Bravo, Barbara Crane, Kozo Miyoshi, Doug and Mike Starn, Aaron Siskind, Rosalind Solomon, John Yang and more.

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BB's site: https://www.barbarabosworth.com/champion-trees
"Bosworth grew up in Novelty, Ohio. She currently lives in Massachusetts, where she is a professor of photography at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design in Boston. Over her long career, Bosworth has photographed in both black and white and color. Her single images display a generous attention to small facts, while her large-scale triptychs reveal a panoramic awareness, one that lets viewers glimpse relationships between frames across a wide field. While all of Bosworth’s projects remind viewers not only that we shape the rest of nature but that it also shapes us."

 

[Sirius Glass]

So this is an odd question, yet perhaps someone knows the answer. Is there a name for the technique of capturing a single composition with multiple sheets of film? I use film as an example as I see this technique with mostly film. Imagine a triptych that lines up with the negatives butting together and that is what I am talking about. I’m racking my brain trying to recall the name. I hope I described it good enough.

-Bruce

The term we used at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory to build larger photographs, such as full planetary photographs, from multiple frames on Voyager et al is mosaicing or mosaicking.

 

[gone]

In art terms, 2 somethings that are hung side by side on a wall are almost always known as a diptych, and 3 are a triptych. You see a lot of those. I guess more than 3 would be a series, you don't see much of that. I like 3 because you have so many ways to display them. The center one can be completely different, or you can have them all the same, or in a series, etc. Photography terms may be different, sculpture probably too, I'm not sure.

When you hang more than 3 images together it gets busy, unless they're supposed to be viewed as 1 whole such as a mosaic or mural. We see and read a diptych or triptych very quickly (although unless our eyes are intentionally diverted we'll start right at the center). More than 3 slows the process down. Like if you hang 1 piece on a blank wall it will dominate the room, so it better be a good image. 2 or 3 images display really well too. More than that and it becomes a wall w/ pictures on it.