Comparing ?: Flexicolor C-41 mixing process with Fugi Hunt E-6 kit

[peter k.]

Understand that the Fugi Hunt E-6 kit is the only one with a separate Bleach and Fix for E-6. We have been developing C-41 with flexicolor, and just about out, and will have to reorder, but thinking instead of going ahead and getting trying some non Blix, Fugi Hunt E-6 kit, and shooting some slide film again. Before we go there, wanted to compare the two processes and see how much they have in common.
So have a few questions.
- Flexicolor development has four main stages: Developer, Stop Bath, Bleach and Fixer, plus of course presoak and rinse. Is this the same for the Hunt kit?
- With Flexicolor we use 9 bottles of plain water that we bring to the desired temp for pre soak and rinsing. Does the Hunt kit require more? (Flexicolor: 2 for presoak, 1 plain water rinse after stop bath, 3 plain water rinse after bleach using Ifford 3 step rinse method and 3 more after fixer.)
- Flexicolor once mixed, we stored in completely filled 20oz wide mouth jars, seems to keep forever. How does the mixed life of the Hunt kit mix compare?
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[koraks]

Are you trying to compare Flexicolor C41 to Fuji/Hunt E6? What's the purpose of this comparison? I mean, one is C41 and the other is E6 - there are some commonalities for sure, but how does that help?

I'm just a little confused by your post.

 

[AgX]

The OP is used to the Flexicolor kit and inquires about the Fuji kit yielding any more hassle than the former.
Otherwise he seemingly will not try at E-6.

 

[Rudeofus]

For obvious reasons E-6 6 bath process is more bathes, more rinses and more hassle than any version of C-41, but I guess Peter knows this already. I am as confused as @koraks ...

 

[peter k.]

Ah ha, ... Yep.. ya all got it, peter is confused!!!! ..

The OP is used to the Flexicolor kit and inquires about the Fuji kit yielding any more hassle than the former. Otherwise he seemingly will not try at E-6.

Yep, were all set up with the way be get all the chemicals of the Flexicolor kit to temp, in a limited bath area that we have set up using a 18qt roaster oven, and its full, with all the bottles needed when we start the developing. But creativity can happen again depending on how large the need for E-6 is.

For obvious reasons E-6 6 bath process is more bathes, more rinses and more hassle than any version of C-41, but I guess Peter knows this already.

NOPE! Not obvious!
Peter does not know, that's why he's so confused in how he's asking the asking. . Never have we done E-6 developing.
So E-6 needs more baths and water rinses. That's not a hassle, so we need more overall volume. Of course the volume depends on what one is developing. In color. We shoot 35mm and 120 roll film, so the containers are marked for each.
But how many more baths and rinses are needed? Are the four main stages of development the same? Developer, Stop Bath, Bleach and Fixer.
Hopefully, with the question better focused, can we have some more input on the difference in developing C-41 vrs E-6 in the kits mentioned.
thanks p..

 

[koraks]

I tend to rinse twice between color processing baths. Otherwise, just follow the instructions.

 

[Rudeofus]

There's a nice description of the E-6 6-bath process steps here. The second fixer bath listed as optional in this description is AFAIK not contained in typical 6 bath kits such as the Fuji kit. So you have 6 chemical bathes (first dev, reexposure, second dev, prebleach, bleach and fixer), which need to run at a specified temperature, three thorough water wash steps (the wash between bleach and fix is highly recommended IMHO), and the final rinse applied at whatever your room temperature may be.