I thing these are super difficult books to read but perhaps worth trying!
I think this would be a nothing photo in B&W, it's all about the colour of the trees.
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If the purpose of a good photograph is to transform reality as Winogrand said isn't it more difficult to do it with color when you are so much bound to reality?
In the photo posted, the Larch trees change colour and drop their needles in the fall, they are only that yellow colour for about 2 weeks at most. So I think that the colour is essential to the photo, otherwise it's a just another mountain and tree photo.Before I saw it I would have probably felt like you that the "great outdoors" needs colour.
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otherwise it's a just another mountain and tree photo
The choice of color vs bw cannot affect the essence of a photo
But I I don't believe that color is an element of composition or content or even form as had been said before.
I simply consider color as an editing choice similar to pumping up the contrast.
In the photo posted, the Larch trees change colour and drop their needles in the fall, they are only that yellow colour for about 2 weeks at most. So I think that the colour is essential to the photo, otherwise it's a just another mountain and tree photo.
I'd be curious to see that one in colour side by side with the B&W. For me though, the big attraction of the larch in the fall is their colour.
Well, it would certainly be a very different photo - particular if printed slightly differently.
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Apologies for the liberties taken.
This thread has come to some interesting conclusions, like erasing 40,000 years of art history when in comes to the role of color in composition.
I am bewildered by the notion that contrast cannot be an element of composition or content.
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I think several have made it clear that they respect your opinion; maybe they haven't been as verbose in doing so as the critics (including myself), but they're certainly there.Don't ask me why, it seems I see different things that the majority here and perhaps since I do not find anyone that I can agree with perhaps I should stop posting from now on.
I think several have made it clear that they respect your opinion; maybe they haven't been as verbose in doing so as the critics (including myself), but they're certainly there.
Whether or not people agree with you - does it matter, in the end? Ultimately, there's probably nobody who agrees entirely with anybody else on this planet. Look hard enough and there'll always be differences of opinion. For me, it's not a problem that you have an opinion, nor that it deviates from what you perceive as the 'average' opinion. As pointed out before, what I find problematic is voicing a private opinion in terms of 'good' and 'bad'. That ticks people off. You find yourself be ticked off as a result. That's your own (un)doing.
The topics you brought to the fore in this thread are interesting, but I think the overall exchange would be more pleasant (for you in the first place) if they were formulated in a more open, non-judgemental fashion.
"What is the role of color in relation to other aspects of photography, such as composition?"
"Can color be regarded as a part of composition, or are they conceptually distinct?"
"What does it mean if color is a dominant characteristic in a photograph; how does that affect the viewer/you?"
"If you remove color from a photograph that you like, would you still like it? How would it change the photograph and its impact?"
"To what extent and under which conditions is it possible for a B&W photograph to have the same impact on the viewer as a color photograph (or vice versa)?"
And if you're into the iffy business about why color photography took such a long time to become accepted in the arts, you could even ask questions about that.
Etc. etc. If you mean what you said in #1, i.e. that you're interested in hearing how other people think about these things, then perhaps just ask and see what comes up. Like I said, it's interesting stuff for sure. And in my experience, if questions are asked as I formulated them above, the discussion tends to start off at least (and perhaps even remain) very congenial, with the opportunity for everyone to voice their own opinions, however much distance there may be between those opinions.
Don't ask me why, it seems I see different things that the majority here and perhaps since I do not find anyone that I can agree with perhaps I should stop posting from now on.
You are trying to make a point by sharing a photo that if I judge it with my criteria goes automatically to the category of "bad" photos.
1st photo: Chaos in the street, chaos in the photographer eye. Not sure what the photographer saw the photo is just awful, no frame, no corners, nothing to show
Who did take the photos in fact? They should be acknowledged.The photographers who took these photos are not unskilled or incompetent.
Who did take the photos in fact? They should be acknowledged.
it seems I see different things that the majority here and perhaps since I do not find anyone that I can agree with perhaps I should stop posting from now on.
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