Color Enlarger to print B & W negs on B & W paper: Does it work Well

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Dr Disco

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I have to get an enlarger soon, and where I live there is an enlarger for sale that looks like it is in good condition. It is a cloro enlarger, but want to print B & w negatives on B & W paper. It seems like this should work ok. Does anyone know if this compromises the quality of the picture?
 

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I have been printing B&W using colour enlargers for close to 20 years.

There are enlargers and then there are enlargers.

Basically, any enlarger with a colour head will print B&W multigrade paper quite well. The optimum is a dedicated B&W head on the enlarger, but colour head will enable you to get very good results on any enlarger.

You may wish to do a search on this site, regarding enlargers and their different types?

Mick.
 

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No problem. Make sure you get a good lens.

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Thanks.

I was told that as long as it has a "cold head" plate I would be OK.

I think this means if I see a traditional bulb in the enlarger, it is not a "cold head".
 

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I don't think anybody makes a cold colour head. Actually cold heads can have more problems. The older ones didn't handle VC paper too well.

A colour head is just a B&W VC head with three filters instead of two. Okay the labels are different but that's it.

Just remember a few things.

1) If you want less contrast dial in more yellow

2) If you want more contrast dial in more magenta

3) Never use the cyan dial

I don't know which paper you tend to use but go to the company website. They should have a guide telling you what to dial in to get each grade. It won't be perfect but it'll get you into the ballpark.

The other thing is it seems contrast filters have soared in price lately. A colour enlarger will end up saving you the high price for contrast filters.
 

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The main difference between "color" and "B&W" enlargers is simply that the former include built-in filters. (Some very old "color" enlargers were just regular enlargers that had built-in slots for slide-in filters, but today most "B&W" enlargers can do that.) As Nick says, you can use the yellow and magenta filters to adjust the contrast of multi-contrast papers, so color enlargers actually have an advantage for doing B&W work. (Note this assumes the usual subtractive filtering method. A few enlargers, like some sold by Philips, use an additive color system. This changes some usage details, but not the fundamental color/B&W enlarger differences.)

In some ways a more critical difference is the one between condenser and diffusion enlargers. A condenser enlarger uses optics in the light path to "shape" the light beam for optimal coverage of the negative. A diffusion enlarger lacks the optics; instead, it bounces the light around a bit inside the enlarger so that it properly covers the negative area. As a general rule, condenser enlargers produce sharper prints but exaggerate scratches, dust, and other flaws, whereas diffusion enlargers aren't quite as sharp but better mask negative flaws. Most condenser enlargers have a cylindrical or bulbous head, whereas most diffusion enlargers have a boxier appearance. (This isn't a perfect indicator, though.) Many photographers have strong personal preferences about condenser vs. diffusion systems, but as somebody who's just starting out, you'll simply have to pick one more-or-less blind. Most, but not all, color enlargers are diffusion enlargers.

On a more specific note, if you could post the make and model of the enlarger you have a chance to buy, along with the asking price, somebody might be able to offer some specific advice about it. You could also plug this information into the eBay search engine to see what similar enlargers are selling for. (Click the option to see completed, rather than ongoing, auctions.) Remember, though, that eBay buyers pay shipping. Given the way enlarger prices have plummeted in the last few years, that can be a substantial cost of buying from eBay, but not of a local purchase.
 

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I believe it is safe to assume that all color enlargers are diffusion enlargers. I bought such an enlarger and put a condenser head. Condenser heads increase contrast and sharpness. Both are very desirable with monochrome. I would recommend this - I noticed the difference.
 

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fhovie said:
I believe it is safe to assume that all color enlargers are diffusion enlargers.

The Philips PCS130 (with PCS150 controller) is a color condenser enlarger. It's something of an odd duck in many ways -- for instance, it uses additive (red/green/blue) colors rather than subtractive (cyan/magenta/yellow) filters. I believe it was sold in England as the Paterson PCS2500, too. There may be other examples, but I admit they're rare. (Well, aside from the very old "color" enlargers that are just enlargers with filter holders and "color" emblazoned on their chassis. I don't think they really count, though.)
 
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